Re: Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)

Steve McIntyre <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Apr 2025 01:48:40 +0100

Newsgroups	gmane.linux.debian.devel.vote
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On Tue, Apr 08, 2025 at 04:46:44PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>Someone writes:
>> [the TC] seems] to be way more collaborative to me, than - once
>> again - immediatly escalating this to -vote and threatening a GR.
>
>Dear Community Team:
>
>I am getting very fed up of the repeated accusations, by multiple
>people, that we "immediately escalated" this to -vote.
>
>As we stated clearly in our thread starter message, and have now
>explicitly documented in detail, we tried very hard in private emails.
>We tried asking nicely.  We tried negotiating.  We tried the DPL.

ACK. We've seen plenty of evidence of this - the "immediately" bit
here is unwarranted.

>Of course the previous attempts were, yes, private emails.
>Escalating to an unstructured moan on a public list would not have
>been sensible. The draft GR proposal is our last resort, but *must*
>be public. So that is why the first *public* thing is the GR
>proposal.
>
>Therefore these allegations are a gross misrepresentation of the
>facts.  Indeed they are made in disregard of the facts.
>
>That these kind of things are being said by multiple people is no
>excuse.  Indeed, it makes the situation worse.
>
>People are entitled to disagree with us about timescales,
>but hyperbolic accusations like "immediately" are unacceptable.

Nod.

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Steve McIntyre                                          [email protected]
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