Re: LLM usage in Debian -- ballot options comparison

Simon Josefsson <[email protected]> Thu, 30 Jul 2026 12:22:19 +0200
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Lucas Nussbaum <[email protected]> writes:

> I am sure that many of us care more about Debian, than about their
> personal absolute freedom to use AI the way they want, or about their
> personal absolute freedom to never ever be exposed to AI outputs. So
> maybe there's a way to build better ballot options that seek more
> consensual ways of working together while accomodating some/most of the
> needs of both camps.

Yay!

Voting on complex topics tends to get in the way of consensual
incremental efforts to understand and resolve things.

Compare Guix's position on LLM [1] that will have to be reworked when
one person disagreed and ~50 agreed [2] with the proposal.  One could
see that as deeply problematic from a democratic point of view.  Or
dedeply inspirational from a consensual viewpoint.  Both is correct.

/Simon (potentially my only contribution to this topic)

[1] https://codeberg.org/guix/guix-consensus-documents/src/commit/a24520c4147ffd67bb696c71f15ed4fb8521a791/008-genai.md
[2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2026-07/msg00268.html

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