Re: Ballot option: Allow AI-Assisted Contributions
Bas Wijnen <[email protected]> Sun, 2 Aug 2026 08:14:25 +0200
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I know this is old, but I still think it should be corrected. On 7/23/26 2:16 PM, Ansgar 🙀 wrote: > There was recently an online outrage over AI use in rsync which > included harassing the maintainer up to wishing for them to die. This sounds to me as "anti-LLM people are bad, they do death threats". Of course it doesn't say that, but if people don't read carefully, that may be what they take away from it. I'm sending this message because I think that is not a valid conclusion from what happened. > This was started because the commit messages included attribution to a > LLM service. No, that is not what started this. Nobody was reading commit messages just because they were looking for something to complain about. What started it was that the rsync maintainer decided to use an LLM and they *broke* rsync. Only when people noticed their backup systems were no longer working, did those people start reading the changelog. There they found out the reason that it was broken, namely that the maintainer had apparently decided to start using an LLM (and they obviously weren't doing a careful review and/or using good tests). > Not including those attributions would have made it less > likely. The story here is not "if you use an LLM, you risk being harrassed". The story is "if you use an LLM, you risk breaking your code". That is problematic in all cases, but especially for software which has been stable for decades. If you break such an essential package, I think it is reasonable that people get angry. I do not expect that that they actually wanted the maintainer to die, but presumably they said that. I do not think that should be considered harassment, because it is not a threat. And in this context, I would give the victims of the breakage some space to express their anger in ways that may not be entirely appropriate. The main reason I wanted to respond to this even after it was probably forgotten, is that I believe it may have given the impression that anti-LLM people are unreasonable and uncivil. I do not think this example makes a case for that. So I wanted to set that straight. Thanks, Bas