Re: GCC LLM policy adopted
Gard Spreemann <[email protected]> Mon, 03 Aug 2026 10:11:05 +0200
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--=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Theodore Tso" <[email protected]> writes: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2026 at 12:22:00PM -0500, Aigars Mahinovs wrote: >> > Instinctually to me, there's so little to be gained from automating the >> > writing of ~15 lines of code that I'm not very worried about this. >>=20 >> You know the old joke about the TV repairman with a hammer? >>=20 >> ... >> - The 2$ is for hitting it with the hammer, 90$ is for knowing where >> exactly to hit >>=20 >> Same with AI-generated contributions, especially bugfix patches and >> security fixes. The most useful of them tend to be way smaller than 15 >> lines of code, but can take massive effort to actually find the right pl= ace >> and the right change. > > Exactly. An AI-generated contribution which adds something such as: > > spin_unlock(&sbi->s_error_lock); > > to a return path, or adds a missing > > sbi->s_ea_inode_cache =3D NULL; > > after s_ea_inode_cache is freed might fix a very impactful bug, > including potentially a high severity security bug. But **how** could > such a line be considered a copyright problem? That makes about as > much sense as claimimg that someone can copyright a four chord song. > You can make any claim you want. But you might get laughed out of > court afterwards.... Is this really what we're discussing though? I can see why one would want an AI policy not to bar on copyright grounds something that is not copyrightable in the first place. That's reasonable. But I don't think it's what people really mean when they're concerned about copyright. We've all seen the "I 'rewrote' X in Y and released it under the more liberal Z license" projects out there. That's the type of stuff that attracts much of my copyright conern, at least. > If someone wants to make a luddite-like claim that it might put your > job at risk and so therefore AI is as evil as the mechanized looms > that caused artisans to lose their jobs at the dawn of the industrial > revolution, sure, we could have that discussion. But please, let's > not insult our fellow DD's intelligence by claiming that such bug > fixes are uncertain with respect to copyright. I think this characterization of the situation is unfair. Because a particular example isn't one where copyright should be a concern, then surely the people worried about copyright are just luddites who lie and pretend that they're worried about copyright? Please assume good faith :-( --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJGBAEBCgAwFiEEz8XvhRCFHnNVtV6AnRFYKv1UjPoFAmpwTRoSHGdzcHJAbm9u ZW1wdHkub3JnAAoJEJ0RWCr9VIz6cx0QANKN/nwZxIobtn/aKiKMzkdFQYYS0IrO ZvAsWYZbg/llqtQHf1JgO45qOnGHp8CBBAC0GiQr5szmE5V5ONKvt6wW3Ef7U/pv AS4j4UXrk9ZEGgvIDiaTX29WGk/iS+CLdbnLxUTQOKoek4+9fsRZm5YvPluqmTPV dv4S8aHLA0XXE7QdG8YqxU4fuDqv9P64s17wyuyrIVNUdo7uwYgxc3lGqdilRtV6 Bl3zGIIYs+pqt7f3Qm2fENEa3uZCgZ46PF09Q73SAn/0q3BvsJjpv6Z9NMZgv7h9 F+HCh2nIL6ok/7n0T0+3xmDbrgqRZdPgWSNS7DLdgvkAQrdpczCdpdGQVBNTlgeY 8FrMXHwG6mRkKWEM0D8ctiR1wY9szTZRrKhakbD2V/812IZsYna70pMzPDGpa3/a AHbI9BFlNnx6I9GsyuS5HbyQfsA0ZuxKe7rXk5dk/xc6zz7XMZqEKT/uU3BZh9vK l/QGr1OMYOOopSwRo8j+t+hulGZq6hTr90hYzvPqYDM1JPD4F9MBUI92UnbR+ebL ZegI2QCGw4wDkR5KzTTvRf0eiH99xzw3ZwUixuM49p43+OIhTLvmsjMZ+Bz+5rjt cRn3fHf31RqZvJrX461vjnGIb7D8mUmMgwGg1VD+reAxa2fsNTrtjPITVjWxFW4o IDSO7gWWt9z9 =dLUL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--