Re: Environmental impact of Debian's AI usage

Quoting Matthias Urlichs (2026-08-19 16:34:14)
> On 19.08.26 10:27, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > On 18.08.26 23:21, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> >> (some cities reported already an average increase of 4C
> >> because of AI datacenters),
> > Source? IMHO that number is highly suspect. 
> 
> I asked Claude how fast the air above a 100-MW data center rises, 
> assuming sea level, 20 °C and no cross wind. The answer is (roughly) 5…8 
> m/s, or Beaufort 4, and it'd be less than 21°C warm at 500m (~1500ft).
[...]
> NB: Yeah I asked an AI. So sue me, but I don't have the time, or the 
> motivation, or the physics background, to calculate that kind of thing 
> myself. Also, if I did it'd most likely require more power to do it than 
> Claude Sonnet.
>
> NB2: IMHO this kind of AI answer is rather unlikely to be diluted by 
> cross-training. While I agree that self-reinforcing AI sloppiness is a 
> major concern, esp. as far as textual output is concerned, that should 
> be a fixable problem. If nothing else succeeds (Pangram comes to mind 
> …), well, we can simply not train on prose written after 2022. Or 2026, 
> given that right now Pangram is still reasonably reliable.

Did you try ask Claude the very same thing you were told, rather than
feed it a more narrow assumption about *how* cities heat up?

Let me Kagi that for you":
https://assistant.kagi.com/share/5cbdf418-2a4d-456d-b26b-e851f191623b

For those not wanting to use AI, go straight to the first of the
sources for that rambling, which is about a 4 degree change of a city:
https://techxplore.com/news/2026-05-centers-nearby-temperatures-degrees-phoenix.html

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