Re: Environmental impact of Debian's AI usage

Jonas Smedegaard <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.debian.devel.vote
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Quoting Aigars Mahinovs (2026-08-20 13:03:24)
> Zero is not a drop. Zero is zero. Zero times a hundred million is still
> zero.
> 
> And if we start talking in far off hypotheticals - buildout of green power
> AI datacenters can be even argued to be *good* for climate as their demand
> accelerates buildout of the green grid and they also push the non-green
> datacenters out of the market.

Yes, all else equal. But all else is not equal, and there is zero (pun
intended) indication that accelerating buildout of *whatever* energy
grid leads to less energy consumption.

For a comparable complexity, see the attempt at solving road traffic
slowdown by widening the roads, which instead lead to more traffic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess%27s_paradox

 - Jonas

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