Re: Rebuilding translations when needed (was: translation-check's maxdelta oddities)

Hi,

Holger Wansing <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > [ Initially a debian-boot vs. debian-www topic but I think
> > vote.debian.org might be having a similar issue. ]
> > 
> > Holger Wansing <[email protected]> (2015-10-31):
> > > Cyril Brulebois <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Could it be that images.data's being updated doesn't lead to a rebuild
> > > > of the relevant translations? And that those are only rebuilt when their
> > > > files actually get updated? That would explain why building them locally
> > > > led to the expected results, while the website getting updated would
> > > > still have the old contents?
> > > > 
> > > > (I'm not sure how dependencies between files are declared/detected, and
> > > > I don't think I'll find time tonight to check this out, hence just
> > > > throwing the idea for the time being.)
> > > 
> > > Hmm, looking at the swedish variant of that page, it seems that Kibi's
> > > assumption might be correct:
> > > 
> > > The corresponding swedish wml file correctly contains the entity 
> > > <humanversion />, but the website shows "Stretch Alpha 3".
> > > 
> > > There was no commit for the swedish errata file since the release of
> > > Alpha 4, and it seems the swedish translation of errata was not newly
> > > build since then.
> > > 
> > > I have no clue what to do about this though...
> > 
> > There's some fun going on with votes right now too.
> > 
> > https://www.debian.org/vote/index.fr.html has:
> > | En attente de sponsors
> > |     Résolution générale : mise à jour de la procédure standard de Résolution
> > 
> > (i.e. waiting for seconds)
> > 
> > while https://www.debian.org/vote/index.en.html has:
> > | Voting Open
> > |     General Resolution: Update Standard Resolution Procedure
> > 
> > The wml_p1_ipp manpage makes me think the following construct might help
> > get translations rebuilt even if their actual source didn't change:
> > |    Special `Depends' Variant
> > |        You can easily write fragments of Makefiles with the -M flag (see below) to keep tracks of which
> > |        files the output file depends on, When "ipp" is invoked as a piece of "WML", the final output file
> > |        may depend on other files.  You can tell "ipp" about these hidden dependencies by using the
> > |        "#depends" variant , e.g.
> > | 
> > |          #depends 'foo.dat'
> > |          #depends "*/*.dat"
> > |          #depends <file>
> > | 
> > |        The contents of the file is not inserted, only information about dependencies are updated.
> 
> I have just committed this for the german d-i errata:
> 
> 
> --- errata.wml  28 Oct 2015 20:18:01 -0000      1.117
> +++ errata.wml  5 Dec 2015 22:08:26 -0000
> @@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
>  #use wml::debian::template title="Debian-Installer - Errata"
>  #use wml::debian::recent_list
>  #include "$(ENGLISHDIR)/devel/debian-installer/images.data"
> +#depends "$(ENGLISHDIR)/devel/debian-installer/errata.wml"
>  #use wml::debian::translation-check translation="1.220" mindelta="1" maxdelta="1"
>  # $Id: errata.wml,v 1.117 2015/10/28 20:18:01 holger-guest Exp $
>  # Original-Translator: Frank Lichtenheld <[email protected]>, 2003-11-11
> 
> 
> Let's see what happens with the next d-i alpha/beta release...
> (and what the build log looks like tomorrow :-) German builds fine
> here locally though.)

This did not work.
The german page still shows 
"Errata für Stretch Alpha 4" and no "Attention: outdated translation. Read
the original."

Interestingly: the french site does everything right: "Alpha 5" and the
"Attention: outdated translation. ... "
There was no commit for french! As there was no for german.


Holger

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