Bug#819664: Re-organise the CD / download pages to make them more useful

El 01/04/16 a las 06:33, Paul Wise escribió:
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>> Thoughts?
>
> An overhaul of the getting Debian pages is indeed long overdue.
>
> Adrian Gibanel had some great ideas about presentation of derivatives
> stuff on the website, perhaps he has some about reorganising the
> 'getting Debian' section of the website. Adrian, the initial proposal
> and discussion is available here:
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/819664

A)

   So, here there is my advice on how to reorganise 'getting Debian' ( 
https://www.debian.org/distrib/index.en.html ).

   Every advice I give on redesigning Debian webpage is based on 
dividing the page on a per-user or per-role basis. I will try to apply 
that policy into 'getting Debian' and trying to add the requested 
additional information about how to check your iso.

   I know that dividing the page on a per-user or per-role basis is not 
useful or convenient for every page but hopefully me trying to think 
outside the box will give you some ideas.

B)

   Some thoughts after reading what I have written as 'Getting Debian' 
page content.

   * The VERB + your + SOMETHING is a pun on the Starship Troopers film 
army/war ads. But, anyways, I feel something similar is needed to link 
each of the steps and make the reader think he is reading a well thought 
guide and not just unconnected steps put together.

   * I have left many other roles (datacenter sysadmin, cloud sysadmin) 
because I think that with three examples you get the idea.

   * You can see how the newbies (Newcomer - Installing it, Computer 
Sysadmin - Newbie) get an installation disk with an specific flavour 
(maybe you just need to give them netinst too? I don't know.)  The 
"Computer Sysadmin - Advanced" gets a netinst image as you might expect.

     This is probably the thing that needs the most to be fixed with the 
current scenario where someone who visits: debian.org gets a link to a 
netinst image while not being clear if they need that media at all or not.

   * You can see that each one of the options do not end on the usual 
"How to burn into CD" or even "How to boot" but try to get people 
involved somehow into Debian.

   * Not sure if it would be better to advice to check the Blends in the 
first place for the "Computer System - Newbie" just in case one of them 
fits his needs.

   * Cloud sysadmin would probably get directed to Cloud based (Amazon, 
Azure, ...) base downloads.

   * Datacenter sysadmin would probably get many downloads offered.

   * About the reusing data (which it's what Steve McIntyre was 
complaining) I guess I would use "include pages" for each one of the 
steps which are duplicated in each of the roles so that we don't have to 
maintain (n roles) times (m steps).

   *   I have invented some pages/terms which probably don't exist in 
actual Debian (website), or maybe they exist but I don't know which are 
their proper names.



C) Possible 'Getting Debian' page content:


   Debian is for everyone. We will try to guide you to get the best 
media of Debian for you. Please choose your profile / role.

Newcomer - First Contact / Newcomer - Installing it / Computer Sysadmin 
- Newbie / Computer Sysadmin - Advanced

   Newcomer - First contact
   =========================

   NEF.0. Know your Debian Live.
          A Debian Live image lets you try Debian in RAM without ... . 
That way you can check if it fits your needs.
   NEF.1. Download your ISO.
          A 32-bit image is probably only need with computers prior to 
2005? . Whenever possible please try the 64-bit image.
          + link to Debian Live favoured 64-bit image
          + link to Debian Live favoured 32-bit image
   NEF.2. Check your ISO.
         This step ensures the ISO you have downloaded is ok. In order 
to verify your download you have to...
   NEF.3. Burn your ISO.
         That big file needs to be put into a DVD or an USB. Here we 
show you how.
   NEF.4. Boot your ISO.
         In order to boot a Debian Live you don't usually need to do 
anything in most recent PCs. However if your previous OSes boot you 
probably need to press F8,...
   NEF. 5. Enjoy your ISO.
         We recommend you to discover the most used and famous Debian 
programs on the Debian Live thanks to our "Discover famous Debian 
programs" page.
   NEF. 6. Become a Debianer!
         Do you enjoy Debian Live but you would like to use it in daily 
basis without using a Debian Live CD or Debian Live USB. Install it on 
your computer. Please check: "Newcomer - Installing it".


   Newcomer - Installing it
   =========================

   NEI.0. Know your Debian Live.
          You don't know what's Debian yet? You might want to test it 
first thanks to a Debian Live image which works without touching your 
hard disk. Please check: "Newcomer - First contact".
   NEI.1. Download your ISO.
          A 32-bit image is probably only need with computers prior to 
2005? . Whenever possible please try the 64-bit image.
          + link to Debian Install favoured 64-bit image
          + link to Debian Install favoured 32-bit image
   NEI.2. Check your ISO.
         This step ensures the ISO you have downloaded is ok. In order 
to verify your download you have to...
   NEF.3. Burn your ISO.
         That big file needs to be put into a DVD or an USB. Here we 
show you how.
   NEI.4. Boot your ISO.
         In order to boot a Debian Installation Disk you don't usually 
need to do anything in most recent PCs. However if your previous OSes 
boot you probably need to press F8,...
   NEI. 5. Install your ISO.
         Installing Debian as a single Operating System for your 
computer is rather simple. If you need additional help on this help you 
can check our tour "Installing Debian".
   NEI. 6. Enjoy your Debian
         We recommend you to discover the most used and famous Debian 
programs on the Debian Live thanks to our "Discover famous Debian 
programs" page.
   NEI. 7. Become a Debianer!
         Do you enjoy Debian? There's a community out there which needs 
your help. Check how you can help by checking our: "Debian - Our 
community" page.


   Computer Sysadmin - Newbie
   ===========================

   CSN.0. Know your Debian
          You don't know what's Debian yet? We recommend you to test it 
in a virtual machine prior to install to a phisical machine. Please 
check: "Debian support on virtualisation systems".
   CSN.1. Download your ISO.
          A 32-bit image is probably only need with computers prior to 
2005? . Whenever possible please try the 64-bit image.
          + link to Debian Install favoured 64-bit image
          + link to Debian Install favoured 32-bit image
   CSN.2. Check your ISO.
         This step ensures the ISO you have downloaded is ok. In order 
to verify your download you have to...
   CSN.3. Burn your ISO.
         That big file needs to be put into a DVD or an USB. Here we 
show you how.
   CSN.4. Boot your ISO.
         In order to boot a Debian Installation Disk you don't usually 
need to do anything in most recent PCs. However if your previous OSes 
boot you probably need to press F8,...
   CSN. 5. Install your ISO.
         Installing Debian as a single Operating System for your 
computer is rather simple. If you need additional help on this help you 
can check our tour "Installing Debian".
   CSN. 6. Enjoy your Debian
         As per your technical role we recommend you to discover the 
different blends of Debian which can be applied to normal Debian 
installation thanks to its metapackages.
   CSN. 7. Become a Debianer!
         Do you enjoy Debian? There's a community out there which needs 
your help. Check how you can help by checking our: "Debian - Our 
community" page.

   Computer Sysadmin - Advanced
   ============================

   CSA.0. Know your Debian
          You don't know what's Debian yet? We recommend you to test it 
in a virtual machine prior to install to a phisical machine. Please 
check: "Debian support on virtualisation systems".
   CSA.1. Download your ISO.
          A 32-bit image is probably only need with computers prior to 
2005? . Whenever possible please try the 64-bit image.
          + link to netinst 64-bit image
          + link to netinst 32-bit image
   CSA.2. Check your ISO.
         This step ensures the ISO you have downloaded is ok. In order 
to verify your download you have to...
   CSA.3. Burn your ISO.
         That big file needs to be put into a DVD or an USB. Here we 
show you how.
   CSA.4. Boot your ISO.
         In order to boot a Debian Installation Disk you don't usually 
need to do anything in most recent PCs. However if your previous OSes 
boot you probably need to press F8,...
   CSA. 5. Install your ISO.
         Installing Debian as a single Operating System for your 
computer is rather simple. If you need additional help on this help you 
can check our tour "Installing Debian".
   CSA. 6. Enjoy your Debian
         As per your technical role we recommend you to discover the 
different blends of Debian which can be applied to normal Debian 
installation thanks to its metapackages.
   CSA. 7. Become a Debianer!
         Do you enjoy Debian? There's a community out there which needs 
your help. Check how you can help by checking our: "Debian - Our 
community" page



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