Re: Please update Ports wiki page

Holger Wansing <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.debian.devel.www,gmane.linux.debian.ports.sparc
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi,

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 07/08/2016 07:20 PM, Holger Wansing wrote:
> > You are right, strictly spoken.
> > But there are several "old and removed" ports in the "unofficial ports" section,
> > like alpha or arm or hppa.
> > To solve this, we would need to create a third section like "Old/Removed ports",
> > or the like.
> 
> Both alpha and hppa still exist, they have just become ports. Neither ia64 nor
> sparc exist anywhere. That's a difference.
> 
> To see what targets in Debian are currently supported, both as release architectures
> and as ports, look at a random buildd page [1]. As you can see, neither "sparc"
> nor "ia64" are nowhere to be found while "alpha", "hppa" and "sparc64" are
> preset - every architecture that is grayed out is currently unofficial, thus
> a ports architecture.

Ok, understood.
To deal with this, I propose to change
"List of unofficial ports" into "List of unofficial/old ports".


I have attached a new diff and the new resulting html file.
Again the changings as an overview:

- "List of unofficial ports" -> "List of unofficial/old ports"
- move ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, s390 and sparc to the "unofficial/old 
  ports" section
- set ia64 from "released" to "discontinued" and added a sentence to document
  this change.
- kfreebsd-amd64: added a sentence to document the current, non-official status
- kfreebsd-i386: added a sentence to document the current, non-official status
- set m68k from "discontinued/being revived" to "in progress"
- set s390 from "released" to "replaced by s390x" and added a sentence to 
  document this change.
- set sparc from "released" to "replaced by sparc64" and added a sentence to 
  document this change.
- sh: changed port name from "sh" to "sh4". And added a sentence to mention
  the J-Core processor.


Holger

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Index: english/ports/index.wml
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retrieving revision 1.129
diff -u -r1.129 index.wml
--- english/ports/index.wml	8 Jun 2016 17:29:42 -0000	1.129
+++ english/ports/index.wml	10 Jul 2016 18:38:32 -0000
@@ -97,32 +97,6 @@
 <td><a href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/">released</a></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
-<td><a href="ia64/">ia64</a></td>
-<td>Intel Itanium IA-64</td>
-<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. This is a port to Intel's
-first 64-bit architecture. Note: this should not be confused with the
-latest Intel 64-bit extensions for Pentium 4 and Celeron processors,
-called Intel 64; for these, see the AMD64 port.</td>
-<td><a href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/ia64/release-notes/">released</a></td>
-</tr>
-<tr>
-<td><a href="kfreebsd-gnu/">kfreebsd-amd64</a></td>
-<td>64-bit PC (amd64)</td>
-<td>First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and
-the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU
-system to the kernel of FreeBSD.</td>
-<td><a
-href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/kfreebsd-amd64/release-notes/">released</a></td>
-</tr>
-<tr>
-<td><a href="kfreebsd-gnu/">kfreebsd-i386</a></td>
-<td>32-bit PC (i386)</td>
-<td>First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and
-the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU
-system to the kernel of FreeBSD.</td>
-<td><a href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/kfreebsd-i386/release-notes/">released</a></td>
-</tr>
-<tr>
 <td><a href="mips/">mips</a></td>
 <td>MIPS (big-endian mode)</td>
 <td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. Debian is being ported to
@@ -154,30 +128,15 @@
 <td><a href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/ppc64el/release-notes/">released</a></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
-<td><a href="s390/">s390</a></td>
-<td>S/390 and zSeries</td>
-<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. This is a port to IBM
-S/390 servers.</td>
-<td><a href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/s390/release-notes/">released</a></td>
-</tr>
-<tr>
-<td>s390x</td>
+<td><a href="s390x/">s390x</a></td>
 <td>System z</td>
-<td>First officially released with Debian 7.0. A 64-bit userland for IBM System z mainframes</td>
+<td>First officially released with Debian 7.0. A 64-bit userland for IBM System z mainframes.</td>
 <td><a href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/s390x/release-notes/">released</a></td>
 </tr>
-<tr>
-<td><a href="sparc/">sparc</a></td>
-<td>Sun SPARC</td>
-<td>First officially released with Debian 2.1. This port runs on the Sun
-UltraSPARC series of workstations, as well as some of their successors
-in the sun4 architectures.</td>
-<td><a href="$(HOME)/releases/stable/sparc/release-notes/">released</a></td>
-</tr>
 </tbody>
 </table>
 
-<toc-add-entry name="portlist-unreleased">List of unofficial ports</toc-add-entry>
+<toc-add-entry name="portlist-unreleased">List of unofficial/old ports</toc-add-entry>
 <br />
 
 <table class="tabular" summary="">
@@ -234,6 +193,34 @@
 <td>in progress</td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
+<td><a href="ia64/">ia64</a></td>
+<td>Intel Itanium IA-64</td>
+<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. This is a port to Intel's
+first 64-bit architecture. Note: this should not be confused with the
+latest Intel 64-bit extensions for Pentium 4 and Celeron processors,
+called Intel 64; for these, see the AMD64 port. With Debian 8 ia64 was
+removed from the release due to insufficient developer support.</td>
+<td>discontinued</td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td><a href="kfreebsd-gnu/">kfreebsd-amd64</a></td>
+<td>64-bit PC (amd64)</td>
+<td>First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and
+the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU
+system to the kernel of FreeBSD. Is no longer part of the official release
+since Debian 8.</td>
+<td>in progress</td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td><a href="kfreebsd-gnu/">kfreebsd-i386</a></td>
+<td>32-bit PC (i386)</td>
+<td>First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and
+the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU
+system to the kernel of FreeBSD. Is no longer part of the official release
+since Debian 8.</td>
+<td>in progress</td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
 <td><a href="http://www.linux-m32r.org/">m32</a></td>
 <td>M32R</td>
 <td>Port to the 32-bit RISC microprocessor of Renesas Technology.</td>
@@ -249,7 +236,7 @@
 of computers based on the Motorola 68k series of processors — in
 particular, the Sun3 range of workstations, the Apple Macintosh personal
 computers, and the Atari and Amiga personal computers.</td>
-<td>discontinued/being revived</td>
+<td>in progress</td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/mips64el">mips64el</a></td>
@@ -290,6 +277,24 @@
 <td>in progress</td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
+<td><a href="s390/">s390</a></td>
+<td>S/390 and zSeries</td>
+<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. This is a port to IBM
+S/390 servers. Was replaced by s390x with Debian 8.</td>
+<td>replaced by s390x</td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
+<td><a href="sparc/">sparc</a></td>
+<td>Sun SPARC</td>
+<td>First officially released with Debian 2.1. This port runs on the Sun
+UltraSPARC series of workstations, as well as some of their successors
+in the sun4 architectures. Since the release of Debian 8 Sparc was no
+longer a release architecture, due to insufficient developer support.
+However, it is to be replaced by Sparc64 soon.
+</td>
+<td>replaced by sparc64</td>
+</tr>
+<tr>
 <td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Sparc64">sparc64</a></td>
 <td>64-bit SPARC</td>
 <td>
@@ -298,9 +303,12 @@
 <td>in progress</td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
-<td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/SH4">sh</a></td>
+<td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/SH4">sh4</a></td>
 <td>SuperH</td>
-<td>A port to Hitachi SuperH processors.</td>
+<td>
+A port to Hitachi SuperH processors. Also supports the open source
+<a href="http://j-core.org/">J-Core</a> processor.
+</td>
 <td>in progress</td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
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<h2><a name="portlist-released" id="portlist-released">List of official ports</a></h2>
<br>
<table class="tabular" summary="">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th>Port</th>
<th>Architecture</th>
<th>Description</th>
<th>Status</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="amd64/">amd64</a></td>
<td>64-bit PC (amd64)</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 4.0. Port to 64-bit x86
processors. The goal is to support both 32-bit and 64-bit userland on this
architecture. This port supports AMD's 64-bit Opteron, Athlon and Sempron
processors, and Intel's processors with Intel 64 support, including the
Pentium D and various Xeon and Core series.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="arm/">arm64</a></td>
<td>64-bit ARM (AArch64)</td>
<td>Version 8 of the ARM architecture included AArch64, a new 64-bit
instruction set. Since Debian 8.0, the arm64 port has been included in
Debian to support this new instruction set on processors such as the
Applied Micro X-Gene, AMD Seattle and Cavium ThunderX.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/arm64/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="arm/">armel</a></td>
<td>EABI ARM</td>
<td>The oldest of the current Debian ARM ports supports little-endian
ARM CPUs compatible with the v4t instruction set.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/armel/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="arm/">armhf</a></td>
<td>Hard Float ABI ARM</td>
<td>A lot of modern 32-bit ARM boards and devices ship with a floating-point
unit (FPU), but the Debian armel port doesn't take much advantage
of it. The armhf port was started to improve this situation and also take
advantage of other features of newer ARM CPUs. The Debian armhf port
requires at least an ARMv7 CPU with Thumb-2 and VFP3-D16 floating point
support.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/armhf/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="i386/">i386</a></td>
<td>32-bit PC (i386)</td>
<td>The first architecture, and not strictly a port. Linux was originally
developed for the Intel 386 processors, hence the short name. Debian
supports all IA-32 processors, made by Intel (including all Pentium
series and recent Core Duo machines in 32-bit mode), AMD (K6, all Athlon
series, Athlon64 series in 32-bit mode), Cyrix and other
manufacturers.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/i386/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="mips/">mips</a></td>
<td>MIPS (big-endian mode)</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. Debian is being ported to
the MIPS architecture which is used in SGI machines (debian-mips —
big-endian) and Digital DECstations (debian-mipsel — little-endian).</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/mips/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="mips/">mipsel</a></td>
<td>MIPS (little-endian mode)</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. Debian is being ported to
the MIPS architecture which is used in SGI machines (debian-mips —
big-endian) and Digital DECstations (debian-mipsel — little-endian).</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/mipsel/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="powerpc/">powerpc</a></td>
<td>Motorola/IBM PowerPC</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 2.2. This port runs on many of
the Apple Macintosh PowerMac models, and on the CHRP and PReP open
architecture machines.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/powerpc/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="powerpc/">ppc64el</a></td>
<td>POWER7+, POWER8</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 8.0. Little-endian port of ppc64,
using the new Open Power ELFv2 ABI.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/ppc64el/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="s390x/">s390x</a></td>
<td>System z</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 7.0. A 64-bit userland for IBM System z mainframes.</td>
<td><a href="../releases/stable/s390x/release-notes/">released</a></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<h2><a name="portlist-unreleased" id="portlist-unreleased">List of unofficial/old ports</a></h2>
<br>
<table class="tabular" summary="">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th>Port</th>
<th>Architecture</th>
<th>Description</th>
<th>Status</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="alpha/">alpha</a></td>
<td>Alpha</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 2.1.
It failed the criteria for inclusion into the release of Debian 6.0 <q>squeeze</q>,
and was in consequence removed from the archive.
</td>
<td>discontinued</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="arm/">arm</a></td>
<td>OABI ARM</td>
<td>This port runs on a variety of embedded hardware, like routers or NAS
devices. The arm port was first released with Debian 2.2, and was
supported up to and including Debian 5.0, where it was replaced with armel.
</td>
<td>replaced by armel</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="http://avr32.debian.net/">AVR32</a></td>
<td>Atmel 32-bit RISC</td>
<td>Port to Atmel's 32-bit RISC architecture, AVR32. </td>
<td>discontinued</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="hppa/">hppa</a></td>
<td>HP PA-RISC</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0 <q>woody</q>, this is a port
to Hewlett-Packard's PA-RISC architecture.
It failed the criteria for inclusion into the release of Debian 6.0 <q>squeeze</q>,
and was in consequence removed from the archive.
</td>
<td>discontinued</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="hurd/">hurd-i386</a></td>
<td>32-bit PC (i386)</td>
<td>The GNU Hurd is a new operating system being put together by
the GNU group.
Debian GNU/Hurd is going to
be one (possibly the first) GNU OS. The current project is
founded on the i386 architecture.
</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="ia64/">ia64</a></td>
<td>Intel Itanium IA-64</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. This is a port to Intel's
first 64-bit architecture. Note: this should not be confused with the
latest Intel 64-bit extensions for Pentium 4 and Celeron processors,
called Intel 64; for these, see the AMD64 port. With Debian 8 ia64 was
removed from the release due to insufficient developer support.</td>
<td>discontinued</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="kfreebsd-gnu/">kfreebsd-amd64</a></td>
<td>64-bit PC (amd64)</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and
the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU
system to the kernel of FreeBSD. Is no longer part of the official release
since Debian 8.</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="kfreebsd-gnu/">kfreebsd-i386</a></td>
<td>32-bit PC (i386)</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 6.0 as a technology preview and
the first non-Linux port released by Debian. Port of the Debian GNU
system to the kernel of FreeBSD. Is no longer part of the official release
since Debian 8.</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="http://www.linux-m32r.org/">m32</a></td>
<td>M32R</td>
<td>Port to the 32-bit RISC microprocessor of Renesas Technology.</td>
<td>dead</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="m68k/">m68k</a></td>
<td>Motorola 68k</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 2.0. The port failed to make
the release criteria for Debian 4.0 and has therefore not been included
in Etch and later releases and has been moved to debian-ports following that.
The Debian m68k port runs on a wide variety
of computers based on the Motorola 68k series of processors — in
particular, the Sun3 range of workstations, the Apple Macintosh personal
computers, and the Atari and Amiga personal computers.</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/mips64el">mips64el</a></td>
<td>MIPS (64-bit little-endian mode)</td>
<td>
This port is little-endian, uses the N64 ABI, the MIPS64r1 ISA and hardware floating-point.
</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="netbsd/">netbsd-i386</a></td>
<td>32-bit PC (i386)</td>
<td>A port of the Debian operating system, complete with apt,
dpkg, and GNU userland, to the NetBSD kernel. The port, never released,
has been abandoned.</td>
<td>dead</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="netbsd/alpha/">netbsd-alpha</a></td>
<td>Alpha</td>
<td>A port of the Debian operating system, complete with apt,
dpkg, and GNU userland, to the NetBSD kernel. The port, never released,
has been abandoned.</td>
<td>dead</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="http://or1k.debian.net/">or1k</a></td>
<td>OpenRISC 1200</td>
<td>A port to the <a href="http://openrisc.net/">OpenRISC</a> 1200 open source CPU.</td>
<td>dead</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/PowerPCSPEPort">powerpcspe</a></td>
<td>PowerPC Signal Processing Engine</td>
<td>
A port to the "Signal Processing Engine" hardware present on low-power 32-bit FreeScale and IBM "e500" CPUs.
</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="s390/">s390</a></td>
<td>S/390 and zSeries</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 3.0. This is a port to IBM
S/390 servers. Was replaced by s390x with Debian 8.</td>
<td>replaced by s390x</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="sparc/">sparc</a></td>
<td>Sun SPARC</td>
<td>First officially released with Debian 2.1. This port runs on the Sun
UltraSPARC series of workstations, as well as some of their successors
in the sun4 architectures. Since the release of Debian 8 Sparc was no
longer a release architecture, due to insufficient developer support.
However, it is to be replaced by Sparc64 soon.
</td>
<td>replaced by sparc64</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/Sparc64">sparc64</a></td>
<td>64-bit SPARC</td>
<td>
A 64-bit port to SPARC processors.
</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/SH4">sh4</a></td>
<td>SuperH</td>
<td>
A port to Hitachi SuperH processors. Also supports the open source
<a href="http://j-core.org/">J-Core</a> processor.
</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><a href="https://wiki.debian.org/X32Port">x32</a></td>
<td>64-bit PC with 32-bit pointers</td>
<td>
X32 is an ABI for amd64/x86_64 CPUs using 32-bit pointers.
The idea is to combine the larger register set of x86_64 with
the smaller memory and cache footprint resulting from 32-bit pointers.
</td>
<td>in progress</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<h2><a name="various" id="various">Port-like projects</a></h2>
<p><em>Although these efforts aren't exactly ports, this seemed like a good
place to put them.</em></p>
<h3><a href="beowulf/">Debian Beowulf</a></h3>
<p>
 Beowulf is a replacement for some of the larger
 mega computers used in the science and math fields. This project aims to run
 Beowulf clusters on Debian machines and to network the <em>people</em> involved in true
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