Re: Bug#1032453: non-free-firmware changes and documentation needs to happen after SC change

Hello

Apologies for the late reply.

I have reviewed our why_debian page (https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian) 
and I don't see the need of update to reflect non-free-firmware related changes: 
The sentence about Debian being 100% free can stay the same as Social Contract 
§1 states; and the changes that were made to the Social Contract with the GR are 
not mentioned in our why_debian page.

If you think that I'm wrong or have some specific proposal or paragraph that we 
should review again, please point to it with the complete URL so I can find my 
mistake and have a look.

Kind regards,

El 21/4/23 a las 18:43, Osamu Aoki escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 15:35 +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> El 21 de abril de 2023 14:30:24 CEST, Osamu Aoki <[email protected]> escribió:
> ...
>>
>>> So this why_debian page needs to be updated first.
> ...
>>> But in order to update this why_debian page properly, I think we need to
>>> wait SC change.  (I CC [email protected] ML)
> ...
>>> No agreement has been reached on SC text since that is the next planned
>>> action.
>>>
>>
>> This already happened:
>>
>> https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/commit/79d1ad80a8ac84afa8c8a224b81fb50c327e6b4f
> 
> Oops.  Thanks.
> 
>>> Once the new SC text is accepted, I will update this §2.1.5 following
>>> why_debian page on www.debian.org.
>>>
>>
>> In a first pass I thought that the page why_debian didn't need an update. I'll
>> look at this more closely, comparing with Debian Reference and other updated
>> documents, during this weekend (if anybody wants to go ahead, I'm also happy
>> to read  proposals from others).
> 
> I see we can still argue Debian is 100% FREE and leave the text as they are.
> 
> The question is how to address things written in updated SC in the updated
> why_debian /debian-reference §2.1.5.  I mean the following part:
> 
> 
>> Thus, although non-free works are not a part of Debian, we support their use
>> and provide infrastructure for non-free packages (such as our bug tracking
>> system and mailing lists). The Debian official media may include firmware that
>> is otherwise not part of the Debian system to enable use of Debian with
>> hardware that requires such firmware.
> 
> 
> Some short footnote may help.  Since I don't like to use negated text, I may add
> text along following as footnote later.  (This is my first thought.  I may need
> to think more.)
> 
> 
>> Debian project supports use of non-free works and provides infrastructure for
>> non-free packages (such as our bug tracking system and mailing lists). The
>> Debian official media may include firmware that is otherwise not part of the
>> Debian system to enable use of Debian with hardware that requires such
>> firmware.
> 
> But before doing this, I want to see how why_debian deals this.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Osamu
>