Re: Bug#1032453: non-free-firmware changes and documentation needs to happen after SC change

Hi,

On Thu, 2023-06-08 at 14:26 +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Apologies for the late reply.
> 
> I have reviewed our why_debian page (https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian) 
> and I don't see the need of update to reflect non-free-firmware related
> changes: 
> The sentence about Debian being 100% free can stay the same as Social Contract
> §1 states; and the changes that were made to the Social Contract with the GR
> are 
> not mentioned in our why_debian page.

Thanks for your input.  Very true.

Since Debian Reference quotes SC, I need to update Debian Reference.

As for the discussion below for the text style (negative...), I decided to keep
current text to avoid additional translation works for trivial stylistic points.
 
> El 21/4/23 a las 18:43, Osamu Aoki escribió:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 15:35 +0200, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
> > > Hello
> > > 
> > > El 21 de abril de 2023 14:30:24 CEST, Osamu Aoki <[email protected]>
> > > escribió:
> > ...
> > > 
> > > > So this why_debian page needs to be updated first.
> > ...
> > > > But in order to update this why_debian page properly, I think we need to
> > > > wait SC change.  (I CC [email protected] ML)
> > ...
> > > > No agreement has been reached on SC text since that is the next planned
> > > > action.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > This already happened:
> > > 
> > > https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/-/commit/79d1ad80a8ac84afa8c8a224b81fb50c327e6b4f
> > 
> > Oops.  Thanks.
> > 
> > > > Once the new SC text is accepted, I will update this §2.1.5 following
> > > > why_debian page on www.debian.org.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > In a first pass I thought that the page why_debian didn't need an update.
> > > I'll
> > > look at this more closely, comparing with Debian Reference and other
> > > updated
> > > documents, during this weekend (if anybody wants to go ahead, I'm also
> > > happy
> > > to read  proposals from others).
> > 
> > I see we can still argue Debian is 100% FREE and leave the text as they are.
> > 
> > The question is how to address things written in updated SC in the updated
> > why_debian /debian-reference §2.1.5.  I mean the following part:
> > 
> > 
> > > Thus, although non-free works are not a part of Debian, we support their
> > > use
> > > and provide infrastructure for non-free packages (such as our bug tracking
> > > system and mailing lists). The Debian official media may include firmware
> > > that
> > > is otherwise not part of the Debian system to enable use of Debian with
> > > hardware that requires such firmware.
> > 
> > 
> > Some short footnote may help.  Since I don't like to use negated text, I may
> > add
> > text along following as footnote later.  (This is my first thought.  I may
> > need
> > to think more.)
> > 
> > 
> > > Debian project supports use of non-free works and provides infrastructure
> > > for
> > > non-free packages (such as our bug tracking system and mailing lists). The
> > > Debian official media may include firmware that is otherwise not part of
> > > the
> > > Debian system to enable use of Debian with hardware that requires such
> > > firmware.
> > 
> > But before doing this, I want to see how why_debian deals this.