Re: complaints about systemd

On 10/09/2014 02:41 AM, Tomasz Kundera wrote:
>  I'd like to say "me too" as the shortest opinion. Dealing with local 
> networks it is absolutely not important how much time the boot takes. 
> Most machines works all the time. During maintenance reboots I can 
> wait a few seconds more. But the complete lack of simplicity and 
> transparency is horrible. Binary logs are horrible, too. Logs are 
> mostly needed when some troubles arises. In that situation they should 
> be accessible as easy and fast as possible. Often there will be no 
> possibility to start a dedicated binary log analyzer. You need only 
> "more" and "sed" to deal with text logs. systemd with no possibility 
> to stay with SystemV is a horrible mistake.
>
 From what I've read about the history and philosophy of all 'nix, I 
thought it was a bedrock rule that primary inputs and outputs *must* be 
text.  Especially any sort of error log!  To abandon that is to travel 
down the road to Redmond, is it not?  Mr. Poettering seems to be a very 
clever lad, and it seems that some real deficiencies in the old init 
have been identified, and some real solutions offered, but it looks to 
me like systemd needs a sober re-think.  Sometimes we really can be too 
clever for our own good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xos2MnVxe-c