Re: CD ripping

On Thu, Jun 4, 2026 at 10:52 PM Dan Ritter wrote:

> Lee wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2026 at 9:38 PM Eben King wrote:
> >
> > > cdparanoia/stable 3.10.2+debian-14+b1 amd64
> > > >    audio extraction tool for sampling CDs
> > >
> > > what makes that option so much fun is there's a  cdparanoia and a
> cd-paranoia.
> > Is there an actual difference or is this yet another instance of someone
> > being too [something] to fix whatever so they write another version of
> the
> > program from scratch?
>
> cd-paranoia with a dash says:
>
>  This version uses the libcdio library for interaction with a CD-ROM drive.
>  The jitter and error correction however are the same as used in Xiph's
>  cdparanoia.
>

I moved from programming to networking decades ago.  So my ability to read
code leaves much to be desired :(
I'm sure that if I knew what I was doing I'd know, or be able to figure
out, the difference between libcdio and whatever cdparanoia uses..  but
maybe I'll get lucky and find a comparison by Someone Who Knows what all
the difference is.

OK.. I realize this is what I signed up for when I switched to Debian (or
open source in general), but it would be nice if it was a bit easier.
I'm still adjusting to the expectation of being able to read code to answer
most any questions you have.

> > (& why is re-implementing something such a thing in linux??)
>
> Open source and no central control.
>

Which begs the question of why the person/people supporting the original
program don't cherry pick the neat ideas from the new version and
incorporate them into the original version.

For example, I don't understand why Apache is supporting openoffice.  OK..
Oracle was trying to dump it & Apache taking it was probably the best
option.  But why is Apache still supporting openoffice?  Most of the
Openoffice people told Oracle to buzz off & they forked libre office.  Why
do we still have open office years later???

> > > On windows the choice was easy.. Exact Audio Copy (EAC) + LAME
> > > > I found instructions for running EAC with WINE.  Is that better than
> any
> > > > 'native' app?
>
> No.
>

Because?

> might change my mind.  And Irfanview.  Why the **** isn't there an open
> > source view pretty much any image program for linux?  xnview is free, but
> > not opensource, so I'm still looking for an image viewer ..
>
>
> <.. snip list ..>
> ... and on through the alphabet.
>
> Try "apt search image view"
>

I did that and more.  I was so sick of the process that when I found xnview
I quit looking - even though xnview isn't open source.

For whatever it's worth, Irfanview supports all this:
  https://www.irfanview.com/main_formats.htm
It'd be nice if I could find something comparable.  That could also do
obscure sound files.
I've still got some SunOS .au files from decades ago & some midi files that
are probably decades old also.

and yet another FWIW:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xv_(software)
While popular in the early 1990s ("XV is widely considered to be the
preeminent image viewer for the X Window System"[2]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xv_(software)#cite_note-2>), ...

I haven't found anything like that for Linux (& preferably Debian)
Regards,
Lee