Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list. (Last modified 20260401)

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> Sur 1 ao=C3=BBt 2026 =C3=A0 20 h 27, Andrew M.A. Cater  <amacater=40ein=
val.com>  a =C3=A9crit :
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>  =20
>  Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,
> and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics.
>
> Codes of Conduct
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * The list is a Debian communication forum. As such, it is subject to b=
oth
>  the Debian mailing list Code of Conduct and the main Debian Code of Co=
nduct
>   https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/=23codeofconduct   <-- URL is ina=
ccessible   =20
>   https://www.debian.org/code=5Fof=5Fconduct
>  =20
> Guidelines for this list
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

> Some guidelines which may help explain how the list should work:
>
> Language
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mail=
ing
>  lists that are language-specific, for example, debian-user-french or
>  debian-user-catalan
>
> * It is common for users to be redirected here from other lists, for ex=
ample,
>  from debian-project. It is also common for people to be posting here w=
hen
>  English is not their primary language. Please be considerate.
>
> Answering questions and contributing to discussions constructively
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * This is a fairly busy mailing list but even so you may have to wait s=
ome
>  time for an answer - please be patient.
>
> * Help and advice on this list is provided by volunteers in their own t=
ime.
>  It is common for there to be different opinions or answers provided.
>  =20
> * It is not necessary to answer every post on the mailing list.
>  =20
> * Be constructive in your responses. It may be that somebody else answe=
rs
>  a question before you - if so, you should not reply simply in order to=
 get
>  the last word in, only reply if you can add useful information.
>
> Off-topic posts
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * Please try to stay on topic.
>
> * Off-topic posts will happen occasionally as threads wander.
>  Don't reply to them to make them carry on.
>
> * If you wish to introduce an off-topic subject that might be
>  of interest to the wider list, start a new thread and preface
>  the title with =5BOT=5D.
>
> * There is no debian-offtopic mailing list: please don't try
>  to start one.
>
> Partisan topics and political arguments
> * Arguments for the sake of it are not
>  welcome here. =20
>
> * Partisan political / religious / cultural arguments do not belong her=
e
>  either.
>
>  Debian's community is world wide; do not assume others will agree with=
 your
>  views or need to read them on a Debian list.
>  =20
> Editing and answering mailing list posts
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * It is helpful to write meaningful subject lines. If you change subjec=
t
>  or emphasis in mid-thread, please change the subject line on your emai=
l
>  accordingly so that this can be clearly seen. =20
>
>  =46or example: New question =5BWAS Old topic=5D
>
> * It may also be useful for someone to post a summary email from time t=
o
>  time to explain long threads.
>  =20
> * Before posting, it may be useful to check your post for spelling mist=
akes
>  and scan it for redundancy, duplicate words and redundancy.
>
> * Clear replies and a short mailing list thread are much easier to
>  read and follow than long threads.
>
> * If you are replying to a post, please reply in-line if possible and =20
>  cut out extra text that is not relevant to your point.
>
> Private replies and responding to posts off-list
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * Please post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private
>  conversations don't benefit people who may only be following
>  along on the list or reading the archives later.
>
> * We're only human: you may want to respond to someone off-list
>  to make a point (or to wish them Happy Birthday / comment that you
>  haven't seen them for a long time). We're also a community and the
>  people you find on the list may become familiar friends
>  =20
>  BUT
>
> * Posting outside the list can be unhelpful: bad behaviour outside the =
lists =20
>  can't easily be dealt with and will be invisible. You may inadvertentl=
y leak
>  personal information by posting a private reply back to the list.
>
>  If you *do* want to post outside the list - make it clear that you hav=
e done
>  so at the top of the message. If someone replies to you privately and =
you
>  think that this should go back to the list - ask them to post it to th=
e list
>  - do not just do so on their behalf without checking.
>
> I can't see what I want here - help me=21
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * It is often useful to look through the archives to see whether the is=
sue
>  you wish to raise or a similar issue has been raised before by someone=

>  else. The top level link to the archives of this list is at
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/  organised by year, then month.=

>
> * Although there are only 20 or 30 regular contributors, there may
>  be a couple of thousand readers in the background. Nobody is
>  a mind reader, nobody can sit beside you. Please help by providing
>  useful details if asked, especially which version of Debian you are
>  running.
>  =20
> I'm not using Debian but ...
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * Strictly, discussions of other distributions are off-topic here.
>  Please note: advice on Linux distributions other than Debian will be
>  only our best guess - other distributions may do things very different=
ly.
>  Any advice given accordingly may be inaccurate but is given in good fa=
ith.
>
> =46AQ topics
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * There is an =46AQ on the Debian wiki derived from some questions aske=
d on this
>  list at  https://wiki.debian.org/=46AQs=46romDebianUser
>
> This is a public list, archived in many places
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> * One question that comes up on almost all Debian lists from time to ti=
me
>  is of the form:
>
>  =22I have done something wrong / included personal details in an email=
.
>  Could you please delete my name / details / remove the mail=22
>
> Practically, this is impossible: the mailing lists are archived, potent=
ially
> cached by Google and so on.
>
> Unfortunately, there is nothing much we can do to ensure that all copie=
s
> anywhere on the Internet are deleted. Asking to do this may only serve =
to
> draw further attention - the so-called =22Streisand effect=22
> See:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand=5Feffect
>
> Problems and inappropriate behaviour=3F
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred to the
> Debian Community Team  <community=40debian.org>.
>
> Inappropriate behaviour on the list may lead to warnings: repeated bad
> behaviour may lead to temporary or permanent bans for offenders.
>
>    =20
>  =20
   
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><div id=3D=22edo-meta=22>Sur 1 ao=C3=BBt 2026 =C3=A0 20 h 27, Andrew M.A=
. Cater &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:amacater=40einval.com=22>amacater=40einva=
l.com</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit : <br><br></div><pre>Debian-user is a mailing =
list provided for support for Debian users,<br>and to facilitate discussi=
on on relevant topics.<br><br>Codes of Conduct<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* The list is a Debian communication foru=
m. As such, it is subject to both<br>  the Debian mailing list Code of Co=
nduct and the main Debian Code of Conduct<br>  <a href=3D=22https://www.d=
ebian.org/MailingLists/=23codeofconduct=22>https://www.debian.org/Mailing=
Lists/=23codeofconduct</a> &lt;-- URL is inaccessible </pre><pre>  <a hre=
f=3D=22https://www.debian.org/code=5Fof=5Fconduct=22>https://www.debian.o=
rg/code=5Fof=5Fconduct</a><br>  <br>Guidelines for this list<br>=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>Some g=
uidelines which may help explain how the list should work:<br><br>Languag=
e<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* The language on this mailing list =
is English. There may be other mailing<br>  lists that are language-speci=
fic, for example, debian-user-french or<br>  debian-user-catalan<br><br>*=
 It is common for users to be redirected here from other lists, for examp=
le,<br>  from debian-project. It is also common for people to be posting =
here when<br>  English is not their primary language. Please be considera=
te.<br><br>Answering questions and contributing to discussions constructi=
vely<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* This i=
s a fairly busy mailing list but even so you may have to wait some<br>  t=
ime for an answer - please be patient.<br><br>* Help and advice on this l=
ist is provided by volunteers in their own time.<br>  It is common for th=
ere to be different opinions or answers provided.<br>  <br>* It is not ne=
cessary to answer every post on the mailing list.<br>  <br>* Be construct=
ive in your responses. It may be that somebody else answers<br>  a questi=
on before you - if so, you should not reply simply in order to get<br>  t=
he last word in, only reply if you can add useful information.<br><br>Off=
-topic posts<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* Pl=
ease try to stay on topic.<br><br>* Off-topic posts will happen occasiona=
lly as threads wander.<br>  Don't reply to them to make them carry on.<br=
><br>* If you wish to introduce an off-topic subject that might be<br>  o=
f interest to the wider list, start a new thread and preface<br>  the tit=
le with =5BOT=5D.<br><br>* There is no debian-offtopic mailing list: plea=
se don't try<br>  to start one.<br><br>Partisan topics and political argu=
ments<br>* Arguments for the sake of it are not<br>  welcome here. <br><b=
r>* Partisan political / religious / cultural arguments do not belong her=
e<br>  either.<br><br>  Debian's community is world wide; do not assume o=
thers will agree with your<br>  views or need to read them on a Debian li=
st.<br>  <br>Editing and answering mailing list posts<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* It is helpful to write meaningful su=
bject lines. If you change subject<br>  or emphasis in mid-thread, please=
 change the subject line on your email<br>  accordingly so that this can =
be clearly seen. <br><br>  =46or example: New question =5BWAS Old topic=5D=
<br><br>* It may also be useful for someone to post a summary email from =
time to<br>  time to explain long threads.<br>  <br>* Before posting, it =
may be useful to check your post for spelling mistakes<br>  and scan it f=
or redundancy, duplicate words and redundancy.<br><br>* Clear replies and=
 a short mailing list thread are much easier to<br>  read and follow than=
 long threads.<br><br>* If you are replying to a post, please reply in-li=
ne if possible and <br>  cut out extra text that is not relevant to your =
point.<br><br>Private replies and responding to posts off-list<br>=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* Ple=
ase post answers back to the list so others can benefit: private<br>  con=
versations don't benefit people who may only be following<br>  along on t=
he list or reading the archives later.<br><br>* We're only human: you may=
 want to respond to someone off-list<br>  to make a point (or to wish the=
m Happy Birthday / comment that you<br>  haven't seen them for a long tim=
e). We're also a community and the<br>  people you find on the list may b=
ecome familiar friends<br>  <br>  BUT<br><br>* Posting outside the list c=
an be unhelpful: bad behaviour outside the lists <br>  can't easily be de=
alt with and will be invisible. You may inadvertently leak<br>  personal =
information by posting a private reply back to the list.<br><br>  If you =
*do* want to post outside the list - make it clear that you have done<br>=
  so at the top of the message. If someone replies to you privately and y=
ou<br>  think that this should go back to the list - ask them to post it =
to the list<br>  - do not just do so on their behalf without checking.<br=
><br>I can't see what I want here - help me=21<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* It is often useful to look through the archiv=
es to see whether the issue<br>  you wish to raise or a similar issue has=
 been raised before by someone<br>  else. The top level link to the archi=
ves of this list is at<br>  <a href=3D=22https://lists.debian.org/debian-=
user/=22>https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/</a> organised by year, the=
n month.<br><br>* Although there are only 20 or 30 regular contributors, =
there may<br>  be a couple of thousand readers in the background. Nobody =
is<br>  a mind reader, nobody can sit beside you. Please help by providin=
g<br>  useful details if asked, especially which version of Debian you ar=
e<br>  running.<br>  <br>I'm not using Debian but ...<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br=
>* Strictly, discussions of other distributions are off-topic here.<br>  =
Please note: advice on Linux distributions other than Debian will be<br> =
 only our best guess - other distributions may do things very differently=
.<br>  Any advice given accordingly may be inaccurate but is given in goo=
d faith.<br><br>=46AQ topics<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* T=
here is an =46AQ on the Debian wiki derived from some questions asked on =
this<br>  list at <a href=3D=22https://wiki.debian.org/=46AQs=46romDebian=
User=22>https://wiki.debian.org/=46AQs=46romDebianUser</a><br><br>This is=
 a public list, archived in many places<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>* One question that comes up on =
almost all Debian lists from time to time<br>  is of the form:<br><br>  =22=
I have done something wrong / included personal details in an email.<br> =
  Could you please delete my name / details / remove the mail=22<br><br>P=
ractically, this is impossible: the mailing lists are archived, potential=
ly<br>cached by Google and so on.<br><br>Unfortunately, there is nothing =
much we can do to ensure that all copies<br>anywhere on the Internet are =
deleted. Asking to do this may only serve to<br>draw further attention - =
the so-called =22Streisand effect=22<br>See:  <a href=3D=22https://en.wik=
ipedia.org/wiki/Streisand=5Feffect=22>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strei=
sand=5Feffect</a><br><br>Problems and inappropriate behaviour=3F<br>=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>Complaints about inappropriate beha=
viour should be referred to the<br>Debian Community Team &lt;community=40=
debian.org&gt;.<br><br>Inappropriate behaviour on the list may lead to wa=
rnings: repeated bad<br>behaviour may lead to temporary or permanent bans=
 for offenders.<br><br></pre> =20
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