Re: My new "distro"...

Hm, excuse me, I'm afraid, dear Meier Andy, not You are the target audience
of my "distro"... this is dedicated as #1: for me. For #otherwise: to the
obsesses gobo-users, for "hackers" or minimum expert/power users! This is
HIGHLY NOT recommended for newbies, beginners, or for peoples, who would
like the computer only/just "use" for a common jobs, and not "tinkering" of
the programs...

With this method, - every programs in its own subdirectory - you can easily
customize your software-environment, create small system, you have final
power over the system!

But: I, of course, develop it more, now install the dependencies of the
Firefox - but I will not create any package management to the distro! Of
course, because this distro has individual directory-structure, impossible
install to it any binary package of other distros (deb, uhu, etc). This is
hardly source-based distro, the only one method is the install from source,
and it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING dependencies-tracking! Please KEEP IN MIND,
that this "distro" is MUCH HARDENED and ANTI/NON-USERFRIENDLY, as the "bad
reputation" Gentoo! The only one "user-friendship" in this distro, just
that every programs installed in its own directory. No more!

Excuse me, I'm sorry...

Zoli



2013/12/11 Meier Andy <[email protected]>

> Hi Zoli,
>
> first to say: yes it is interesting me!! I am long-time with Linux, and
> open for new ideas.
> But I am kind of n00b  and therefore, functionality is important for me,
> and therefore
> I stuck with Ubuntu :-)
> IMHO, it would be genius to combine new ideas with the performance of
> Ubuntu...
> means: should also be possible to use any kind of .deb package, HW
> (printer!) drivers
> included !
> I like to try anything, if this is possible without to much of
> tinkering... :-)
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>   On Wednesday, 11 December 2013 8:42 AM, Viola Zoltán <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>  ​​
> Hi everybudy... :)
>
> Finally, It is succeeded to me, to create a new working "release" of a
> "gobo-fork"... The name: "KISS". Of course, the "KISS" is an abbreviation
> of the "Keep It Simple, Stupid".
>
> This "distro" is NO compatible with the original GoboLinux! It has a
> little bit different directory-structure.
>
> All links depend at the "root-link", named "_". This is in the / dir, and
> it present the actual/proper "root" directory of the current KISS-release!
>
> For ekzample:
>
> _ -> Releases/2014
>
> Every other links in the / , point/show across/via the _ link:
>
> /root -> _U/root
> /home -> _/U
> (The root no in the U directory, because with this technique it is
> possible the full U directory to placed a different partition.)
> /bin, /sbin -> _/S/L/E
> /lib -> _/S/L/Y
> /usr -> _/usr
> /var -> _/S/V
> /boot -> _/S/Kernel/Boot
> /etc -> _/S/O
>
> ...
>
> As You can see, I use mostly just only single characters for the directory
> names. This is easy to written scripts. The cheaf names:
>
> P = Programs
> L = Links
> E = Executables
> Y = Libraries (librarY)
> H = Headers
> T = share ("The Others")
> S = System
> O = Settings ("Options")
> V = Variables
> F = Files
> U = Users
> C = the .pc files (I hate all...)
> X = libeXec files
> D = documents
>
> subdirectories of D:
> I = info pages
> M = manual pages
> doc = other docs
>
>  The significance of this "_", that you no must have other own partition
> to a new release of this "KISS" distro! Just unpack it to a new subdir
> under /Releases dir, change the "/_" link to this dir, and you can use it,
> and if you not like the new release, you can easily "downgrade" it, with
> the back-writing of the "/_" link!
>
> Under the P dir, every programs is in its own subdirectory, of course,
> like as the GoboLinux, under the version-subdir. For ekzample:
>
> /_/P/Bash/4.2
>
> But, not the "Current" link show the current version of the program, but
> the "-" link! The function of this link is same as the known "Current"
> link, just the name changed to the "minus" character. This makes easy to
> write colorizing script, need check just 1 character, and this char
> different as the "_" character in the / dir.
>
> The links in the /_/S/L tree show across/over/via the "-" link! This is
> other method as in the original GoboLinux. For ekzample:
>
> # ls -l bash
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 dec    9 17.59 bash -> /_/P/Bash/-/bin/bash
>
> In the /_/P/programname/version dir the shared files findable in the
> Shared dir, but the "share" link show not to the "Shared" (./Shared), but
> the full /_/S/L/T dir!
>
> Otherwise, I not use the original GoboLinux scripts. The Python-dependency
> is for me UNACCEPTABLE! I wrote other, own scripts in place of the
> "SymlinkProgram", "PrepareProgram", "RemoveBroken", and "ColorMake". There
> are mostly ordinary bash-scripts, in a few case with a little bit C
> program... Because, in the beginning phase of the system-building from
> scratch, I not have python, of course! But bash and C-compiler in the
> temporary system, yes.
>
> My actual/current "release" has the following major working progs:
>
> - all, present in the LFS 7.4 book. (Please understand: LFS, and NOT the
> BLFS!)
> - check
> - wget
> - Tcl/TK
> - MC
> - XBindKeys
> - Python ( :( - I hate it... )
> - the complett Xorg, but not all Xorg drivers. But easy to compile the
> missing drivers to this X, because the X in my distro NOT in 1 subdir with
> all component, but every part is in its own different subdir, for ekzample:
>
> Xf86-Video-Nouveau
> Xf86-Video-Vesa
> Xf86-Video-VMware
> X-FixesProto
> X-FontsProto
> X-GlProto
> Xinit
> X-InputProto
> X-KbProto
> XKeyboardConfig
> X-Libdmx
> X-LibFontEnc
> X-LibFS
> X-LibICE
> X-LibPciAccess
> X-LibSM
> X-LibX11
> X-LibXaw
> X-LibXcomposite
> X-LibXcursor
> X-LibXdamage
> X-LibXext
> X-LibXfixes
> X-LibXfont
> X-LibXft
> X-LibXi
> X-LibXinerama
> X-LibXkbFile
> X-LibXmu
> X-LibXpm
> X-LibXrandr
> X-LibXrender
> X-LibXres
> X-LibXscrnSaver
> X-LibXt
> X-LibXtst
> X-LibXv
> X-LibXvMC
> X-LibXxf86dga
> X-LibXxf86vm
> XORG-Fonts
> XORG-Server
> X-RandrProto
> X-RecordProto
> X-RenderProto
> X-ResourceProto
> X-ScrnsaverProto
> XTerm
> X-Util-Macros
> X-VideoProto
> X-XcmiscProto
> X-XextProto
> X-Xf86BigFontProto
> X-Xf86dgaProto
> X-Xf86driProto
> X-Xf86VidModeProto
> X-XineramaProto
> X-XProto
> X-Xtrans
>
> and others.
>
> The X work in my system, with my 32 bits Lenovo ThinkPad T61 laptop.
>
> I have working TWM and DWM window managers, XTerm and Urxvt. But the final
> configuration of this X not finished yet, because I no written xorg.conf
> yet. Therefore, for ekzample, my fonts in the virtual terminals are ugly,
> the keyboard layout no in my hungarian variant, and others. But I think,
> they are not big problems, because different countries must have different
> settings. Every peoples should configure it as he/she would like it.
>
> The boot scripts are from the LFS Book, of course, it is good idea to set
> it properly in the rc.d dirs, in the udev rules, etc.
>
> NO INSTALLER! Unpack it to an empty partition, edit the menu.lst, the
> fstab, and update-grub from an existing installed distro.
>
> NO AUDIO DRIVERS, music players, multimedia softwares, no X libraries (Qt,
> GTK...), no browser! No dhcp, no network-manager...
>
> Of course, in the next weeks I will install this softwares, but today they
> are missing in my "distro".
>
> Known bugs:
>
> After the boot, before the "prompt", at times my machine wait for
> something/anything, and I must press an "Enter", for the propmt.
> Presumably, because I not have installed internet-softwares or others. But
> after this, everything work good.
>
> Does this interest somebody?
> Would I like to ask, whether this interests somebody only?
>
> Zoli
>
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