Re: KDE in GoboLinux - has KDE become more difficult?

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On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:34 AM, kenneth marken <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 25. aug. 2017 15:04, Robert Alexander wrote:
>
>> Hello GoboFolks in general,
>>
>> Since a while I am wondering about QT and KDE in general.
>>
>> The old folks may remember that GoboLinux used to come with KDE on
>> board, like in the old days,
>> 2004 or something. This was in theKDE 3 area. I remember that I myself
>> was able to compile qt3
>> and kde3 stuff (kde-libs, kde-baseand so on) quite easily on
>> non-gobolinux systems as well.
>>
>> Then came the switch to cmake, qt4, and kde4 and things became a lot
>> more difficult, at the
>> least for me. Now we have qt5 and kde5 and ... plasma... kde-apps 17.0.x
>> something. To be
>> honest I lost track. You can find about 200-300 individual .tar.xz files
>> in total now for kde + kde
>> plasma and many ofthem aren't so trivial to set up or get to compile -
>> thanks to cmake again
>> IMO. In my opinion at the least, or my experience.
>>
>> So my question here is, and I want to keep this fairly short:
>>
>>   - Has the way how the KDE project changed over the years, made things
>> harder to work
>> with for gobolinux developers in general, or is the primary reason just
>> something more
>> mundane such as lack of time?
>>
>> I am asking in particular because a while ago on slashdot, there also
>> were several other
>> people who said that kde 3 was the last great KDE and things have
>> decayed past this
>> point onward. And I wondered if that was something that may also be a
>> reason why gobolinux
>> may not come with KDE. If things would be more easy, would kde be also
>> packaged?
>>
>> I am asking here in particular because I think that I could eventually
>> autogenerate valid
>> gobolinux recipes, perhaps by the end of the year (I have to improve on
>> the code and
>> look for corner cases or more complicated programs, but simple recipes I
>> should be able
>> to autogenerate ... I am currently tracking close to 3000 programs and
>> wrote a small
>> script that tells me which gobo-recipes I am missing yet... I'll keep on
>> adding missing
>> ones over the next ~weeks).
>>
>>
> Speaking of KDE3, there is a group that has continued maintaining it, and
> the underlying Qt3 lib.
>
> https://www.trinitydesktop.org/
>

Interesting, thanks for sharing. By the way, there's this blog post from
last year in which a KDE developer "announces" KDE 1.0:

   https://www.heliocastro.info/?p=291

Cheers,
Lucas

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ri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:34 AM, kenneth marken <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail-HOEnZb"><div class=3D"gmail-h5">On 25. aug. 2017 15:04, Robert=
 Alexander wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Hello GoboFolks in general,<br>
<br>
Since a while I am wondering about QT and KDE in general.<br>
<br>
The old folks may remember that GoboLinux used to come with KDE on<br>
board, like in the old days,<br>
2004 or something. This was in theKDE 3 area. I remember that I myself<br>
was able to compile qt3<br>
and kde3 stuff (kde-libs, kde-baseand so on) quite easily on<br>
non-gobolinux systems as well.<br>
<br>
Then came the switch to cmake, qt4, and kde4 and things became a lot<br>
more difficult, at the<br>
least for me. Now we have qt5 and kde5 and ... plasma... kde-apps 17.0.x<br=
>
something. To be<br>
honest I lost track. You can find about 200-300 individual .tar.xz files<br=
>
in total now for kde + kde<br>
plasma and many ofthem aren&#39;t so trivial to set up or get to compile -<=
br>
thanks to cmake again<br>
IMO. In my opinion at the least, or my experience.<br>
<br>
So my question here is, and I want to keep this fairly short:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 - Has the way how the KDE project changed over the years, made thing=
s<br>
harder to work<br>
with for gobolinux developers in general, or is the primary reason just<br>
something more<br>
mundane such as lack of time?<br>
<br>
I am asking in particular because a while ago on slashdot, there also<br>
were several other<br>
people who said that kde 3 was the last great KDE and things have<br>
decayed past this<br>
point onward. And I wondered if that was something that may also be a<br>
reason why gobolinux<br>
may not come with KDE. If things would be more easy, would kde be also<br>
packaged?<br>
<br>
I am asking here in particular because I think that I could eventually<br>
autogenerate valid<br>
gobolinux recipes, perhaps by the end of the year (I have to improve on<br>
the code and<br>
look for corner cases or more complicated programs, but simple recipes I<br=
>
should be able<br>
to autogenerate ... I am currently tracking close to 3000 programs and<br>
wrote a small<br>
script that tells me which gobo-recipes I am missing yet... I&#39;ll keep o=
n<br>
adding missing<br>
ones over the next ~weeks).<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div></div>
Speaking of KDE3, there is a group that has continued maintaining it, and t=
he underlying Qt3 lib.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.trinitydesktop.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://www.trinitydesktop.org<wbr>/</a><br></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div>Interesting, thanks for sharing. By the way, there&#39;s this blog =
post from last year in which a KDE developer &quot;announces&quot; KDE 1.0:=
</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.heliocastro.i=
nfo/?p=3D291">https://www.heliocastro.info/?p=3D291</a><br></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Lucas</div></div></div></div>

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