Re: Steep learning curve

Warren Burstein <[email protected]> Mon, 23 Aug 2021 19:16:58 +0300
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I've got a phone that sends over 1,000 texts a day.  Most of them go to a
phone that rotates between the support team and I feel sorry for whoever's
turn it is to have the phone.  But then there were a few months when it was
broken (I think the USB cable came out of the phone) and no one
complained.  But the texts are a backup for emails so maybe it's not as
mission-critical as it sounds ...

The only reason I noticed is that each spring the CEO has daily reminders
of something personal sent to himself and to friends of his and on the
first day he noticed that he didn't get one.

I wrote my own version of smsd, and I don't use the X version as X11
doesn't work through the firewall.  I've thought of having it do a small
number of retries when there are problems and emailing me when it seems to
be unplugged but since no one notices failures except for the CEO's
personal thing, I'm hoping to avoid that.

But we only use it locally, because texts are billed to the sender where we
are.  We also send a lot of texts in the US (no idea how many since I don't
count those) using cell-providers' email-to-SMS gateways.  A while back one
of them stopped working, I told our tech support to contact Verizon's (or
whoever's) tech support, but they didn't get back to me, so either it got
fixed, or they just gave up ;-)

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:42 PM Pawel Kot <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Scot,
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:40 PM Scot Rogers <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > My name is Scot and I have a need to be able to send mass sms texts.
>
> Just a disclaimer here: gnokii might not be your choice here. Possibly it
> is
> more reasonable to use mass communication provider, such as Twilio, connect
> through an API and use just that. You will have much better througput. With
> gnokii you will be limited with serial sending by a single phone (or
> multiple
> phones if you connect them).
>
> > I have a ton of questions.  First, I downloaded and installed the
> > software from the Ubuntu repository and it appears to be all there.
> > I've started reading some of the info within the package, but I can't
> > seem to find any solid guidance.
>
> You need to configure gnokii first to talk to your device by editing
> gnokiirc file. You can get some details under:
>  - https://gnokii.org/docs.shtml
> There is also a decent documentation in the sample gnokiirc:
>  - http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnokii.git/tree/Docs/sample/gnokiirc
> and you can look through other documentation provided:
>  - http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnokii.git/tree/Docs
>
> Our wiki is down for a couple of years but you can also find more detailed
> reference at:
>  -
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170616003101/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Main_Page
>  -
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170616014824/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/User's_Guide
>  -
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170617085029/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Config
>  -
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170705093631/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Config_options
>
> > I can't seem to get Xgnokii to launch from the gui, and when I run it
> > from terminal, I get an error list revolving around the phone not
> > being connected - which it is not.  I don't have a phone, yet.  And
>
> xgnokii would work only with phone connected and configured as far as
> I remember.
>
> > I'm not sure how to find a more recent model phone that accepts AT
> > commands.   If I can get a proper phone I think it'll help a bit, and
> > these old nokia phones are looking harder and harder to find.
>
> I'm afraid I cannot help with this one. Actually I haven't used gnokii
> in ages...
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Pawel Kot
> http://www.gnokii.org/
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve got a phone that sends over 1,000 texts a day.=C2=
=A0 Most of them go to a phone that rotates between the support team and I =
feel sorry for whoever&#39;s turn it is to have the phone.=C2=A0 But then t=
here were a few months when it was broken (I think the USB cable came out o=
f the phone) and no one complained.=C2=A0 But the texts are a backup for em=
ails so maybe it&#39;s not as mission-critical as it sounds ...<br><br>The =
only reason I noticed is that each spring the CEO has daily reminders of so=
mething personal sent to himself and to friends of his and on the first day=
 he noticed that he didn&#39;t get one.<br><br>I wrote my own version of sm=
sd, and I don&#39;t use the X version as X11 doesn&#39;t work through the f=
irewall.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve thought of having it do a small number of retries w=
hen there are problems and emailing me when it seems to be unplugged but si=
nce no one notices failures except for the CEO&#39;s personal thing, I&#39;=
m hoping to avoid that.<br><br>But we only use it locally, because texts ar=
e billed to the sender where we are.=C2=A0 We also send a lot of texts in t=
he US (no idea how many since I don&#39;t count those) using cell-providers=
&#39; email-to-SMS gateways.=C2=A0 A while back one of them stopped working=
, I told our tech support to contact Verizon&#39;s (or whoever&#39;s) tech =
support, but they didn&#39;t get back to me, so either it got fixed, or the=
y just gave up ;-)</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:42 PM Pawel Kot &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Scot,<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:40 PM Scot Rogers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scot.a.ro=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>
&gt; My name is Scot and I have a need to be able to send mass sms texts.<b=
r>
<br>
Just a disclaimer here: gnokii might not be your choice here. Possibly it i=
s<br>
more reasonable to use mass communication provider, such as Twilio, connect=
<br>
through an API and use just that. You will have much better througput. With=
<br>
gnokii you will be limited with serial sending by a single phone (or multip=
le<br>
phones if you connect them).<br>
<br>
&gt; I have a ton of questions.=C2=A0 First, I downloaded and installed the=
<br>
&gt; software from the Ubuntu repository and it appears to be all there.<br=
>
&gt; I&#39;ve started reading some of the info within the package, but I ca=
n&#39;t<br>
&gt; seem to find any solid guidance.<br>
<br>
You need to configure gnokii first to talk to your device by editing<br>
gnokiirc file. You can get some details under:<br>
=C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://gnokii.org/docs.shtml" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://gnokii.org/docs.shtml</a><br>
There is also a decent documentation in the sample gnokiirc:<br>
=C2=A0- <a href=3D"http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnokii.git/tree/Docs/sa=
mple/gnokiirc" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://git.savannah.gnu=
.org/cgit/gnokii.git/tree/Docs/sample/gnokiirc</a><br>
and you can look through other documentation provided:<br>
=C2=A0- <a href=3D"http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnokii.git/tree/Docs" r=
el=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnokii=
.git/tree/Docs</a><br>
<br>
Our wiki is down for a couple of years but you can also find more detailed<=
br>
reference at:<br>
=C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://web.archive.org/web/20170616003101/http://wiki.g=
nokii.org/index.php/Main_Page" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/web.archive.org/web/20170616003101/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Main_P=
age</a><br>
=C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://web.archive.org/web/20170616014824/http://wiki.g=
nokii.org/index.php/User&#39;s_Guide" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
https://web.archive.org/web/20170616014824/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php=
/User&#39;s_Guide</a><br>
=C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://web.archive.org/web/20170617085029/http://wiki.g=
nokii.org/index.php/Config" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://we=
b.archive.org/web/20170617085029/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/Config</a=
><br>
=C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://web.archive.org/web/20170705093631/http://wiki.g=
nokii.org/index.php/Config_options" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://web.archive.org/web/20170705093631/http://wiki.gnokii.org/index.php/C=
onfig_options</a><br>
<br>
&gt; I can&#39;t seem to get Xgnokii to launch from the gui, and when I run=
 it<br>
&gt; from terminal, I get an error list revolving around the phone not<br>
&gt; being connected - which it is not.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t have a phone, yet=
.=C2=A0 And<br>
<br>
xgnokii would work only with phone connected and configured as far as<br>
I remember.<br>
<br>
&gt; I&#39;m not sure how to find a more recent model phone that accepts AT=
<br>
&gt; commands.=C2=A0 =C2=A0If I can get a proper phone I think it&#39;ll he=
lp a bit, and<br>
&gt; these old nokia phones are looking harder and harder to find.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m afraid I cannot help with this one. Actually I haven&#39;t used gno=
kii<br>
in ages...<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
-- <br>
Pawel Kot<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.gnokii.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.gnokii.org/</a><br>
<br>
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