Re: Kernel Oops on loading hsf modules (Ubuntu Breezy)
Manuel Teira <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.linux.drivers.modem.hsf |
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| Message-ID | <1134124261.7862.2.camel@piton> |
El lun, 05-12-2005 a las 14:38 -0500, Linuxant support (Jonathan) escribió: > Hi, > > we can't confirm if the information provided by the 'slamr' driver is > right. However, it is right most of the time as far as I know. So, is there any other way to know if the modem into my laptop (Toshiba L20-101 is supported by your hsfmodem? > > We are not aware of this crash issue. Since you had ACPI problem and we > can see an ACPI function in the kernel stack trace you have provided, > you could try to boot with the 'apci=off' kernel boot parameter to see > if there is a difference. You could also try with a 2.6.14.x kernel from > http://ww.kernel.org to see if there is a difference. I've tried using acpi=off and I also got a kernel oops, of course with a different stack trace due to the acpi lack: Dec 9 11:22:46 piton kernel: [ 209.243653] hsfengine: module license 'see LICENSE file distributed with driver' taints kernel. Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.426972] f8fe8068 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.426977] Modules linked in: hsfmc97ich hsfserial hsfsoar hsfengine hsfosspec binfmt_misc rfcomm l2cap bluetooth cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_stats freq_table cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_conservative pcmcia wacom i915 drm ipv6 sg sr_mod cdrom rtc ipw2200 firmware_class ieee80211 ieee80211_crypt yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core tpm_nsc tpm snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc pci_hotplug intel_agp agpgart dm_mod joydev tsdev evdev pcspkr psmouse mousedev parport_pc lp parport md ext3 jbd mbcache processor 8139too 8139cp mii ehci_hcd uhci_hcd usbcore sd_mod ide_generic ide_core ata_piix ahci libata scsi_mod unix Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427013] CPU: 0 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427014] EIP: 0060:[pg0 +952242280/1069773824] Tainted: P VLI Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427015] EFLAGS: 00210286 (2.6.12.l20) Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427113] EIP is at hsfengine1343_ +0xf1f/0x17e7 [hsfengine] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427116] eax: 00000000 ebx: c00f6c90 ecx: 3edf6ff6 edx: 990777b8 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427119] esi: ff6e7000 edi: ecd13d74 ebp: ecd13d74 esp: ecd13d2c Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427121] ds: 007b es: 007b ss: 0068 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427124] Process modprobe (pid: 7705, threadinfo=ecd12000 task=df9a5020) Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427126] Stack: 00000001 df9a5020 c0116cc0 00100100 00200200 f8e1e502 001de2e0 00000000 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427131] 00000000 00000000 f138b000 000f6c90 deadaffe 6e55a180 000000d0 efc165c0 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427137] ef707708 efc165ec ecd13da4 f8fe0235 f1871840 00000001 efc165c4 efc165ec Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427143] Call Trace: Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427154] [default_wake_function +0/32] default_wake_function+0x0/0x20 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427162] [pg0+950367490/1069773824] OsThreadStart+0x72/0xa0 [hsfosspec] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427186] [pg0+952209973/1069773824] hsfengine1553_+0x85/0xb0 [hsfengine] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427267] [pg0+952208973/1069773824] hsfengine519_+0x1d/0x40 [hsfengine] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427344] [pg0+952054891/1069773824] cnxthsf_ComCtrl_Open+0x6b/0x1b0 [hsfengine] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427412] [pg0+950251730/1069773824] cnxthsf_cnxt_serial_add+0x1a2/0x3f0 [hsfserial] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427422] [pg0+950249136/1069773824] cnxt_event_handler+0x0/0x310 [hsfserial] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427434] [pcibios_lookup_irq +72/1200] pcibios_lookup_irq+0x48/0x4b0 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427442] [vsnprintf+732/1312] vsnprintf+0x2dc/0x520 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427451] [pm_register+39/160] pm_register+0x27/0xa0 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427458] [pg0+950534874/1069773824] cnxthwpci_probe+0x19a/0x250 [hsfmc97ich] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427470] [pg0+950534924/1069773824] cnxthwpci_probe+0x1cc/0x250 [hsfmc97ich] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427483] [pci_device_probe_static +82/112] pci_device_probe_static+0x52/0x70 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427491] [__pci_device_probe+60/80] __pci_device_probe+0x3c/0x50 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427497] [pci_device_probe+44/96] pci_device_probe+0x2c/0x60 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427502] [driver_probe_device +47/128] driver_probe_device+0x2f/0x80 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427509] [driver_attach+82/160] driver_attach+0x52/0xa0 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427517] [bus_add_driver+153/224] bus_add_driver+0x99/0xe0 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427523] [pci_device_shutdown+0/32] pci_device_shutdown+0x0/0x20 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427527] [pci_register_driver +104/144] pci_register_driver+0x68/0x90 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427532] [pg0+948568320/1069773824] cnxthwpci_init+0x100/0x106 [hsfmc97ich] Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427542] [sys_init_module+290/432] sys_init_module+0x122/0x1b0 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427551] [sysenter_past_esp+84/117] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x75 Dec 9 11:23:00 piton kernel: [ 223.427563] Code: e9 04 ee ff ff 89 da 89 da 31 f2 31 c0 81 c9 c1 ee b1 37 89 ef 89 d9 ff c2 f7 c1 f0 5e c0 e7 c7 c1 f6 6f df 3e c7 c2 b8 77 07 99 <8a> 06 89 ea 21 c2 ff c1 31 e9 48 89 ea 89 c1 ff ca c7 c7 f1 78 Regards. > > Regards, > > > Jonathan > Technical specialist / Linuxant > www.linuxant.com > [email protected] > > > > Manuel Teira wrote: > > Hello. > > I'm trying to get my Toshiba L20 modem to work. First, I tried with the > > smartlink opensource drivers, but all that I got was NO DIALTONE > > messages. After looking at the debug information of the slamr module: > > > > [4541457.939000] slamr: mc97 codec is CXT30 > > [4541457.939000] slamr: slamr0 is ICH4 card. > > > > I reach the conclusion that the only driver supporting this chipset is > > your hsf linuxant driver. Is this correct? > > > > Also, the information from lspci talks about a PCI vendor:id: > > > > 0000:00:1e.3 0703: 8086:266d (rev 04) > > 0000:00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) > > AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [Generic]) > > > > So, I downloaded the matching deb package for my 2.6.12-10-686 kernel > > (hsfmodem_7.18.00.07full_k2.6.12_10_686_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip) > > > > the package configuration stage freezes the terminal, looking at the > > kernel logs, I could find: > > > > Dec 2 21:13:15 piton kernel: [4294905.909000] hsfengine: module license > > 'see LICENSE file distributed with driver' taints kernel. > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.015000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt > > 0000:00:1e.3[B] -> Link [LNKE] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] f90ac068 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] Modules linked in: > > hsfmc97ich hsfpcibasic2 hsfserial hsfengine hsfosspec hsfsoar > > binfmt_misc rfcomm l2cap bluetooth speedstep_centrino cpufreq_userspace > > cpufreq_stats freq_table cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand > > cpufreq_conservative pcmcia wacom i915 drm video tc1100_wmi sony_acpi > > pcc_acpi hotkey dev_acpi i2c_acpi_ec i2c_core button battery container > > ac ipv6 sg sr_mod cdrom rtc ipw2200 firmware_class ieee80211 > > ieee80211_crypt yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core tpm_nsc tpm > > snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer > > snd soundcore snd_page_alloc shpchp pci_hotplug intel_agp agpgart dm_mod > > joydev tsdev evdev psmouse mousedev parport_pc lp parport md ext3 jbd > > mbcache thermal processor fan 8139too 8139cp mii ehci_hcd uhci_hcd > > usbcore sd_mod ide_generic ide_core ata_piix ahci libata scsi_mod unix > > vesafb capability commoncap vga16fb vgastate softcursor cfbimgblt > > cfbfillrect cfbcopyarea fbcon tileblit font bitblit > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] CPU: 0 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] EIP: 0060:[pg0 > > +953143400/1069872128] Tainted: P VLI > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] EFLAGS: 00010286 > > (2.6.12-10-686) > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] EIP is at hsfengine1343_ > > +0xf1f/0x17e7 [hsfengine] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] eax: 00000000 ebx: > > c00f6c90 ecx: 3edf6ff6 edx: 990777b8 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] esi: ff6e7000 edi: > > e8555d84 ebp: e8555d84 esp: e8555d3c > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] ds: 007b es: 007b ss: > > 0068 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] Process modprobe (pid: > > 7723, threadinfo=e8554000 task=eb748020) > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] Stack: 00000001 eb748020 > > c0115645 00100100 00200200 f8ee6501 001d62d0 00000000 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] 00000000 00000000 > > 000003e8 000f6c90 deadaffe 6e55a180 0000002c e852bf00 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] efe08308 e852bf2c > > e8555db4 f90a4235 f0f0f980 00000001 e852bf04 e852bf2c > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] Call Trace: > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [default_wake_function > > +0/18] default_wake_function+0x0/0x12 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +951284993/1069872128] OsThreadStart+0x61/0x80 [hsfosspec] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +953111093/1069872128] hsfengine1553_+0x85/0xb0 [hsfengine] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +953110093/1069872128] hsfengine519_+0x1d/0x40 [hsfengine] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +952956011/1069872128] cnxthsf_ComCtrl_Open+0x6b/0x1b0 [hsfengine] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +950952002/1069872128] cnxthsf_cnxt_serial_add+0x192/0x3d0 [hsfserial] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +950949520/1069872128] cnxt_event_handler+0x0/0x2e0 [hsfserial] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [acpi_pci_link_allocate > > +229/266] acpi_pci_link_allocate+0xe5/0x10a > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [vsnprintf+700/1284] > > vsnprintf+0x2bc/0x504 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pm_register+36/144] > > pm_register+0x24/0x90 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +951386857/1069872128] cnxthwpci_probe+0x199/0x260 [hsfmc97ich] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +951386907/1069872128] cnxthwpci_probe+0x1cb/0x260 [hsfmc97ich] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pci_device_probe_static > > +82/111] pci_device_probe_static+0x52/0x6f > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [__pci_device_probe > > +59/78] __pci_device_probe+0x3b/0x4e > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pci_device_probe+44/86] > > pci_device_probe+0x2c/0x56 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [driver_probe_device > > +47/122] driver_probe_device+0x2f/0x7a > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [driver_attach+77/140] > > driver_attach+0x4d/0x8c > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [bus_add_driver+152/217] > > bus_add_driver+0x98/0xd9 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pci_register_driver > > +101/131] pci_register_driver+0x65/0x83 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [pg0 > > +949756121/1069872128] cnxthwpci_init+0xd9/0xdf [hsfmc97ich] > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [sys_init_module > > +286/412] sys_init_module+0x11e/0x19c > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] [sysenter_past_esp > > +84/117] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x75 > > Dec 2 21:13:16 piton kernel: [4294906.042000] Code: e9 04 ee ff ff 89 > > da 89 da 31 f2 31 c0 81 c9 c1 ee b1 37 89 ef 89 d9 ff c2 f7 c1 f0 5e c0 > > e7 c7 c1 f6 6f df 3e c7 c2 b8 77 07 99 <8a> 06 89 ea 21 c2 ff c1 31 e9 > > 48 89 ea 89 c1 ff ca c7 c7 f1 78 > > > > > > I also tried to compile the hsf drivers myself, against a 2.6.12 kernel > > tailored for my Toshiba L20 (a workaround for a weird symbol in the ACPI > > table related with the battery measurement) but identical in the rest of > > config options to the ubuntu 2.6.12-10-686 previous one. When I try to > > modprobe the hsfmc97ich.ko module, the crash is the same: > > > > Dec 3 02:24:05 piton kernel: [4297653.440000] hsfengine: module license > > 'see LICENSE file distributed with driver' taints kernel. > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.419000] ACPI: PCI Interrupt > > 0000:00:1e.3[B] -> Link [LNKE] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] f90ab068 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] Modules linked in: > > hsfmc97ich hsfsoar hsfserial hsfengine hsfosspec binfmt_misc rfcomm > > l2cap bluetooth speedstep_centrino cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_stats > > freq_table cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_conservative > > pcmcia wacom i915 drm video tc1100_wmi sony_acpi pcc_acpi hotkey > > dev_acpi i2c_acpi_ec i2c_core button battery container ac ipv6 sg sr_mod > > cdrom rtc ipw2200 firmware_class ieee80211 ieee80211_crypt yenta_socket > > rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core tpm_nsc tpm snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec > > snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc > > shpchp pci_hotplug intel_agp agpgart dm_mod joydev tsdev evdev psmouse > > mousedev parport_pc lp parport md ext3 jbd mbcache thermal processor fan > > 8139too 8139cp mii ehci_hcd uhci_hcd usbcore sd_mod ide_generic ide_core > > ata_piix ahci libata scsi_mod unix vga16fb vgastate softcursor cfbimgblt > > cfbfillrect cfbcopyarea fbcon tileblit font bitblit > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] CPU: 0 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] EIP: 0060:[pg0 > > +953041000/1069773824] Tainted: P VLI > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] EFLAGS: 00010286 > > (2.6.12.l20) > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] EIP is at hsfengine1343_ > > +0xf1f/0x17e7 [hsfengine] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] eax: 00000000 ebx: > > c00f6c90 ecx: 3edf6ff6 edx: 990777b8 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] esi: ff6e7000 edi: > > c2eedd74 ebp: c2eedd74 esp: c2eedd2c > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] ds: 007b es: 007b ss: > > 0068 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] Process modprobe (pid: > > 10532, threadinfo=c2eec000 task=f31b5020) > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] Stack: 00000001 f31b5020 > > c0116cc0 00100100 00200200 f8ee1502 001d12e0 00000000 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] 00000000 00000000 > > f7ea2000 000f6c90 deadaffe 6e55a180 000000d0 c58f7d40 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] cfb63b08 c58f7d6c > > c2eedda4 f90a3235 cf1b6480 00000001 c58f7d44 c58f7d6c > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] Call Trace: > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [default_wake_function > > +0/32] default_wake_function+0x0/0x20 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +951166210/1069773824] OsThreadStart+0x72/0xa0 [hsfosspec] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +953008693/1069773824] hsfengine1553_+0x85/0xb0 [hsfengine] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +953007693/1069773824] hsfengine519_+0x1d/0x40 [hsfengine] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +952853611/1069773824] cnxthsf_ComCtrl_Open+0x6b/0x1b0 [hsfengine] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +950821074/1069773824] cnxthsf_cnxt_serial_add+0x1a2/0x3f0 [hsfserial] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +950818480/1069773824] cnxt_event_handler+0x0/0x310 [hsfserial] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [acpi_pci_link_allocate > > +261/266] acpi_pci_link_allocate+0x105/0x10a > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [vsnprintf+732/1312] > > vsnprintf+0x2dc/0x520 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pm_register+39/160] > > pm_register+0x27/0xa0 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +951268058/1069773824] cnxthwpci_probe+0x19a/0x250 [hsfmc97ich] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +951268108/1069773824] cnxthwpci_probe+0x1cc/0x250 [hsfmc97ich] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pci_device_probe_static > > +82/112] pci_device_probe_static+0x52/0x70 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [__pci_device_probe > > +60/80] __pci_device_probe+0x3c/0x50 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pci_device_probe+44/96] > > pci_device_probe+0x2c/0x60 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [driver_probe_device > > +47/128] driver_probe_device+0x2f/0x80 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [driver_attach+82/160] > > driver_attach+0x52/0xa0 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [bus_add_driver+153/224] > > bus_add_driver+0x99/0xe0 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pci_device_shutdown > > +0/32] pci_device_shutdown+0x0/0x20 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pci_register_driver > > +104/144] pci_register_driver+0x68/0x90 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [pg0 > > +949580032/1069773824] cnxthwpci_init+0x100/0x106 [hsfmc97ich] > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [sys_init_module > > +290/432] sys_init_module+0x122/0x1b0 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] [sysenter_past_esp > > +84/117] sysenter_past_esp+0x54/0x75 > > Dec 3 02:24:26 piton kernel: [4297674.449000] Code: e9 04 ee ff ff 89 > > da 89 da 31 f2 31 c0 81 c9 c1 ee b1 37 89 ef 89 d9 ff c2 f7 c1 f0 5e c0 > > e7 c7 c1 f6 6f df 3e c7 c2 b8 77 07 99 <8a> 06 89 ea 21 c2 ff c1 31 e9 > > 48 89 ea 89 c1 ff ca c7 c7 f1 78 > > > > > > I'm interested in putting the modem to work under my ubuntu breezy, so > > feel free to ask for more information about the problem. I should buy > > the license for the full driver but first I want to see the restricted > > one working. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > hsflinux mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://www.linuxant.com/mailman/listinfo/hsflinux