Re: "Clicks" in handshake sound don't let modem to establish connection.

Jasmine <[email protected]> Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:04:49 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.linux.drivers.modem.hsf
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*Forwarded message*

Sorry, forgot to reply all, so I ended up sending my reply to you instead o=
f to the list :)

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Jasmine <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Jasmine <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hsflinux] "Clicks" in handshake sound don't let modem to esta=
blish connection.
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 10:03 PM

Ok, thanks for the info... Guess it's a completely different problem than t=
hat which I encountered. My modem's chip, even though is listed as supporte=
d, probably isn't. Perhaps it has newer codec/chip which is not yet support=
ed.

It's odd you mentioned that it worked fine for you in ubuntu with both 2.6.=
28-generic and 2.6.30, yet not in gentoo. Since you used the generic ubuntu=
 kernels, that means it is a different kernel config than the kernel config=
 you used in gentoo, and different patchsets.. You might want to investigat=
e the changes further perhaps that would lead to some useful clue.
Moreover, you might want to check this particular FAQ question from linuxan=
t site:
http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/faq.php#12
----------------
12.=A0 My modem doesn't work, or dials irregularly and sometimes it doesn't=
 transmit all the tones from the=0A phone number.

This problem might be ACPI-related or caused by a timing issue related to t=
he APIC timer module in some Linux kernels (usually SMP kernels). You can v=
erify if your kernel is using APIC by looking for the line "ENABLING IO-API=
C IRQs" when you run the "dmesg" command.

If you experience this problem, try disabling ACPI and/or the APIC by booti=
ng your kernel with the option "acpi=3Doff" and/or the option "noapic".
----------------

That's all I can think of at the moment..

Regards,
Jasmine
--- On Tue, 9/8/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hsflinux] "Clicks" in handshake sound don't let modem to esta=
blish connection.
To: [email protected]
Cc:=0A [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:40 PM

Modem actually dialing but not connecting due "clicks"
in its signal.

You wrote:
>=20
> Also, when you got "HDA support not compiled in the driver" after
> running hsfconfig on your newly built kernel 2.6.30....
>
Yes, sound stopped working, because hsfconfig=20
failed to build new alsa modules and renamed old modules=20
to something like snd-*.ReplacedByHsfmodem.
So no alsa-modules - no sound.=20

On the other side with 2.6.27 kernel it compiles new alsa modules
without any problem.
With already patched alsa-modules (both in-kernel or separate package)
hsfconfig doesn't replace them. It just picks them up.=20
There were no messages about unabling to unload modules.
/etc/init.d/alsasound restart after uninstalling driver and i have sound wo=
rking.

About ubuntu :)
all just works in=0A Ubuntu.
I've installed 9.04 for testing purposes.
Modem works as it should. And yes on both kernels.
with default 2.6.28 (with debs for it) and with generic 2.6.30 with generic=
 alsa-driver-linuxant (source deb)
and hsfmodem-7.80.02.04full.tar.gz (not deb).

You can download "clicks".
Here is the archive with it - deposit[remove_it]files[dot]com/files/0fa28vj=
8a
it shows just clicks, i even did't try to establish connection (it's imposs=
ible due clicks) so i swithed from pulse to tone dialing as my provider sup=
ports only pulse dial-out.
You can play it with:
aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r16000 <filename>


On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
Jasmine <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting... I'm wondering, when you say "can't establish a
> connection", is the modem actually dialing but not=0A connecting, or is
> not dialing (nor picking up dialtone) at all ?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Also, when you got "HDA support not compiled in the driver" after
> running hsfconfig on your newly built kernel 2.6.30, did you notice
> that your sound (via the in-kernel alsa driver) stopped working (since
> hsfconfig loads its own modules which do not have HDA support)? Did you
> notice any messages when trying to uninstall (or stopping manually or
> during reboot/shutdown) via hsfconfig about being unable to unload
> modules?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Can you upload the tarball of the "clicks" sound you mention?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The reason I'm asking all this is because I've had very similar issues
> on Ubuntu, both on the 2.6.28 generic kernel, and on my custom built
> 2.6.30 kernel, both with built-in alsa and with the linuxant alsa
> source deb=0A package..
>=20
> More details on that in the thread I posted recently on this mailing list=
, titled:
>=20
> [hsflinux] latest hsfmodem (7.80.02.04) breaks snd-hda-intel from latest =
alsa-driver-linuxant (1.0.20.3)
>=20
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Jasmine
>=20
> --- On Tue, 9/8/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote=
:
>=20
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: [hsflinux] "Clicks" in handshake sound don't let modem to establ=
ish connection.
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:12 PM
>=20
>=A0 hi, i have a strange problem, after updating kernel (from 2.6.27 to 2.=
6.30) with in-kernel alsa i can't use modem driver anymore. With freshly in=
stalled gentoo-sources-2.6.30-r6 hsfconfig failed building modules with mes=
sage: HDA support not compiled in the driver, so i decided switch off in-ke=
rnel alsa and to try out separate alsa-driver package (1.0.20) with patch f=
rom linuxant with improved support for Conexant chipsets and the HSF driver=
. All compiled ok. hsfconfig build modules. Modem works. But it can't estab=
lish connection due "clicks" in its signal. I have a record of it. The same=
 version of driver works ok with gentoo-sources-2.6.27 (with in-kernel alsa=
) without any patching. I also have applied alsa-patch from linuxant to gen=
too-sources-2.6.30-r6=0A to try it with in-kernel alsa (1.0.20). This works=
 too but also with "clicks".=20
>=20
> I can send you dcprecord.tar.gz, it is about 300k.=20
> I tried same version (7.80.02.04) of hsfmodem driver on both kernels.
> Kernels have just the same configuration files.
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> https://www.linuxant.com/mailman/listinfo/hsflinux
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>=20
>=20
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">*Forwarded message*<br><br>Sorry, forgot to r=
eply all, so I ended up sending my reply to you instead of to the list :)<b=
r><br>--- On <b>Tue, 9/8/09, Jasmine <i>&lt;[email protected]&gt;</i><=
/b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);=
 margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Jasmine &lt;jasmine.aura@y=
ahoo.com&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [hsflinux] "Clicks" in handshake sound don't l=
et modem to establish connection.<br>To: [email protected]<br>Date: Tu=
esday, September 8, 2009, 10:03 PM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv1984018824"><table =
border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"fo=
nt-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight=
: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inhe=
rit; font-stretch: inherit; -x-system-font: none;" valign=3D"top">Ok, thank=
s for the info...
 Guess it's a completely different problem than that which I encountered. M=
y modem's chip, even though is listed as supported, probably isn't. Perhaps=
 it has newer codec/chip which is not yet supported.<br><br>It's odd you me=
ntioned that it worked fine for you in ubuntu with both 2.6.28-generic and =
2.6.30, yet not in gentoo. Since you used the generic ubuntu kernels, that =
means it is a different kernel config than the kernel config you used in ge=
ntoo, and different patchsets.. You might want to investigate the changes f=
urther perhaps that would lead to some useful clue.<br>Moreover, you might =
want to check this particular FAQ question from linuxant site:<br>http://ww=
w.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/faq.php#12<br>----------------<br>12.&nbsp; My m=
odem doesn't work, or dials irregularly and sometimes it doesn't transmit a=
ll the tones from the=0A phone number.<br><br>This problem might be ACPI-re=
lated or caused by a timing issue related to the APIC timer module in some =
Linux kernels (usually SMP kernels). You can verify if your kernel is using=
 APIC by looking for the line "ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs" when you run the "dme=
sg" command.<br><br>If you experience this problem, try disabling ACPI and/=
or the APIC by booting your kernel with the option "acpi=3Doff" and/or the =
option "noapic".<br>----------------<br><br>That's all I can think of at th=
e moment..<br><br>Regards,<br>Jasmine<br>--- On <b>Tue, 9/8/09, isengard200=
[email protected] <i>&lt;[email protected]&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; paddin=
g-left: 5px;"><br>From: [email protected] &lt;[email protected]&g=
t;<br>Subject: Re: [hsflinux] "Clicks" in handshake sound don't let modem t=
o establish connection.<br>To: [email protected]<br>Cc:=0A jasmin=
[email protected]<br>Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:40 PM<br><br><div c=
lass=3D"plainMail">Modem actually dialing but not connecting due "clicks"<b=
r>in its signal.<br><br>You wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Also, when you got "HDA=
 support not compiled in the driver" after<br>&gt; running hsfconfig on you=
r newly built kernel 2.6.30....<br>&gt;<br>Yes, sound stopped working, beca=
use hsfconfig <br>failed to build new alsa modules and renamed old modules =
<br>to something like snd-*.ReplacedByHsfmodem.<br>So no alsa-modules - no =
sound. <br><br>On the other side with 2.6.27 kernel it compiles new alsa mo=
dules<br>without any problem.<br>With already patched alsa-modules (both in=
-kernel or separate package)<br>hsfconfig doesn't replace them. It just pic=
ks them up. <br>There were no messages about unabling to unload modules.<br=
>/etc/init.d/alsasound restart after uninstalling driver and i have sound w=
orking.<br><br>About ubuntu :)<br>all just works in=0A Ubuntu.<br>I've inst=
alled 9.04 for testing purposes.<br>Modem works as it should. And yes on bo=
th kernels.<br>with default 2.6.28 (with debs for it) and with generic 2.6.=
30 with generic alsa-driver-linuxant (source deb)<br>and hsfmodem-7.80.02.0=
4full.tar.gz (not deb).<br><br>You can download "clicks".<br>Here is the ar=
chive with it - deposit[remove_it]files[dot]com/files/0fa28vj8a<br>it shows=
 just clicks, i even did't try to establish connection (it's impossible due=
 clicks) so i swithed from pulse to tone dialing as my provider supports on=
ly pulse dial-out.<br>You can play it with:<br>aplay -t raw -f S16_LE -r160=
00 &lt;filename&gt;<br><br><br>On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT)<br>J=
asmine &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
>&gt; Interesting... I'm wondering, when you say "can't establish a<br>&gt;=
 connection", is the modem actually dialing but not=0A connecting, or is<br=
>&gt; not dialing (nor picking up dialtone) at all ?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&=
gt; <br>&gt; Also, when you got "HDA support not compiled in the driver" af=
ter<br>&gt; running hsfconfig on your newly built kernel 2.6.30, did you no=
tice<br>&gt; that your sound (via the in-kernel alsa driver) stopped workin=
g (since<br>&gt; hsfconfig loads its own modules which do not have HDA supp=
ort)? Did you<br>&gt; notice any messages when trying to uninstall (or stop=
ping manually or<br>&gt; during reboot/shutdown) via hsfconfig about being =
unable to unload<br>&gt; modules?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Can yo=
u upload the tarball of the "clicks" sound you mention?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <b=
r>&gt; <br>&gt; The reason I'm asking all this is because I've had very sim=
ilar issues<br>&gt; on Ubuntu, both on the 2.6.28 generic kernel, and on my=
 custom built<br>&gt; 2.6.30 kernel, both with built-in alsa and with the l=
inuxant alsa<br>&gt; source deb=0A package..<br>&gt; <br>&gt; More details =
on that in the thread I posted recently on this mailing list, titled:<br>&g=
t; <br>&gt; [hsflinux] latest hsfmodem (7.80.02.04) breaks snd-hda-intel fr=
om latest alsa-driver-linuxant (1.0.20.3)<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Cheers,=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Jasmine<br>&gt; <br>&gt; --- On Tue, 9/8/09, <a rel=3D"no=
follow">[email protected]</a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow">isengard2002@yan=
dex.ru</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; From: <a rel=3D"nofollow">isengard20=
[email protected]</a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>=
&gt; Subject: [hsflinux] "Clicks" in handshake sound don't let modem to est=
ablish connection.<br>&gt; To: <a rel=3D"nofollow">[email protected].=
com</a><br>&gt; Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:12 PM<br>&gt; <br>&gt;&=
nbsp; hi, i have a strange problem, after updating kernel (from 2.6.27 to 2=
.6.30) with in-kernel alsa i can't use modem driver anymore. With freshly i=
nstalled gentoo-sources-2.6.30-r6
 hsfconfig failed building modules with message: HDA support not compiled i=
n the driver, so i decided switch off in-kernel alsa and to try out separat=
e alsa-driver package (1.0.20) with patch from linuxant with improved suppo=
rt for Conexant chipsets and the HSF driver. All compiled ok. hsfconfig bui=
ld modules. Modem works. But it can't establish connection due "clicks" in =
its signal. I have a record of it. The same version of driver works ok with=
 gentoo-sources-2.6.27 (with in-kernel alsa) without any patching. I also h=
ave applied alsa-patch from linuxant to gentoo-sources-2.6.30-r6=0A to try =
it with in-kernel alsa (1.0.20). This works too but also with "clicks". <br=
>&gt; <br>&gt; I can send you dcprecord.tar.gz, it is about 300k. <br>&gt; =
I tried same version (7.80.02.04) of hsfmodem driver on both kernels.<br>&g=
t; Kernels have just the same configuration files.<br>&gt; ________________=
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