Re: build a hack box of choice?

How would such hardware differ from soekris and openbrick?

--francois

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:03:36AM -0700, Scott Serr wrote:
> To clarify what I am thinking a little...  What if XYZ company could 
> supply you with hardware that is almost like the SOHO router that you 
> are porting to, but XYZ company adds widget A to make it hackable.  And 
> they try to have a long run without EOLing so fast.
> 
> Basically XYZ would obtain or build the super hackable SOHO you want, 
> give it to you at a decent price and in a limited way support the 
> hacking and Linux porting that you guys do.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> 
> Bruno Lopes F. Cabral wrote:
> 
> >Hello there
> >
> >there are at least a few initiatives like you're searching for,
> >i.e. from seattlewireless.net (Samsung S3C4510B), hri.sf.net
> >(Conexant 84200/newer samsungs), actiontec router, ucrouter.ru
> >(also Samsung S3C4510B) and so on
> >
> >all of them try to port linux to SOHO routers(*), which are
> >cheap but have the drawback of changed hardware revisions
> >so often that one could get a unit with a different processor
> >than the one already ported to :^|
> >
> >I'm with hri.sf.net guys: some info on porting is on-line,
> >some is published on the list (we really need to put all
> >on-line, sf.net list archive is simply horrible!)... some
> >is still undocumented ...
> >
> >our goal is to make the ports AND PUT THE INFO ON HOW WE
> >DID IT available. the boards we're tweaking into have
> >serial UARTs available, as JTAG connectors
> >
> >about books, I read one from O'reilly (Building Embedded
> >Linux I think) but it is more on how to build your own
> >toolchain(**) than on how to diggle with different hardware
> >to start with. I'm in search of a book on _hardware_
> >and how to change linux kernel to accomodate it (in case
> >anyone knows such a book, I'd like to know)
> >
> >http://vega.soi.city.ac.uk/~es728/pdf/aleph.pdf
> >as a nice doc about how to port linux to a new ARM based
> >board. that helped me to solve the uncompressing part
> >of linux boot loader (so I get my first cx84200 port
> >with ramdisk to SMC7004VWBR rev.1 hardware)
> >
> >about a cheaper board than soekris, try www.pcengines.ch,
> >Geode 233 for US$140 (US$98 in 480 quantities). soekris
> >is about US$185-199 for a AMD ELAN 133, which seems too
> >much to me ( remember you'll need to add wlan card,
> >power supply and case -- that's why HRI project is so
> >interesting ;-) )
> >
> >Cheers
> >!3runo
> >
> >(*) ucrouter.ru actually build their own board. their
> >rom can run on many samsung s3c4510b based boxes!
> >
> >(**) I recomend snapgear.org toolchain. it is available
> >for various embedded systems
> >
> >Scott Serr wrote:
> >
> >>With all the talk about which new box might be hackable, it seems 
> >>obvious that there is a need for something cheap but with the 
> >>capabilities of the expensive Soekris boards.
> >>
> >>I work as a software engineer (IT department doing mostly Java and 
> >>web stuff) of an ASIC company.  I know very little about hardware, 
> >>but I work with friends that know hardware and know the industry and 
> >>the OEM players.
> >>
> >>My question is...  what needs to be in a box to not just make it 
> >>hackable, but be made to hack and put Linux on it?  Also, is there 
> >>current hardware (WRT54?) that may have an OEM much like all the 
> >>vendors that used the WL11000 based boards?
> >>I'm wondering if a rough business model of catering to the Linux-hack 
> >>market would work.  Of course I am counting all the applications of 
> >>the hacked boxes, otherwise the quantity probably wouldn't be enough.
> >
> >
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