Re: Hacker ethic, brogrammer ethic
Don Marti <[email protected]> Mon, 7 Jul 2014 05:21:55 -0700
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begin Teh Entar-Nick quotation of Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 10:49:17PM +0000: > > I specifically am not talking about people who choose permissive > licensing for other reasons. There are plenty of concerns that could > lead one to choose a permissive licence, many involving compatibility > with a given body of work or community of practice. And yes, > organisational structure can really help mitigate some of the failure > conditions these licences leave you open to. > > My point is that people who try to argue that copyleft works *against* > freedom are the ones who are probably brogramming instead of hacking. Old-school anti-copyleft flaming isn't as much of a problem around here as the "forget all that legal jibber-jabber, I just want to bro down and crush code" message. Luis Villa: "...the values encapsulated in our licenses are taken for granted by younger developers who have always had a plentiful, healthy free-as-in-beer code commons." http://lu.is/blog/2013/01/27/taking-post-open-source-seriously-as-a-statement-about-copyright-law/ A decent Unix-like system with tools is just background radiation--you can always download a slick Linux distribution, or software comes free of charge with your choice of aluminum ingot from the Apple Store (just click here to agree to the EULA, nobody reads that stuff). While there's some "these kids today don't appreciate what earlier generations built" the problem might be that we don't have _enough_ license flamewars. At least they got people to think about the norms that affect software sharing. Maybe it's just a question of how much does an individual see startup equity as an essential ticket out of _précarité_. Everyone has a different balance of change the system / get my piece of the existing system. Try to change the system in the 1980s and fail, oh, well, you have to get a middle-class job babysitting Novell NetWare or something. Fail in the 2010s and if you're not on the "tech bus" you're, um, a self-employed achiever in the cloud-based crowdsourcing economy. -- Don Marti http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ [email protected] _______________________________________________ Do not Cc: anyone else on mail sent to this list. The list server is set for maximum one recipient. linux-elitists mailing list [email protected] http://zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists