Re: SJW FTW
Rick Moen <[email protected]> Sat, 5 Dec 2015 07:26:26 -0800
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Quoting Don Marti ([email protected]): > Ever notice how some of the most meritorious hackers are also some of > the biggest SJWs? (check it out, this is email, I can wait.) > > Does this make sense? > > Of course it does. And you don't need boring academic postmodern this > or identity that to explain it. Mainstream open source SJWism is > clearly the winning strategy from a behavioral economics and > evolutionary psychology point of view. > > Supporting the expansion of the demographic pool that the Free > Software scene can draw from is a hell of a signal. Listening to what the world's population wants is just common sense. Speaking and acting in a way that reflects awareness of cultural difference is also just common sense. There appears to be some difference of view about some episodes of online vigilantism carried out in the name of inclusiveness, most often alleging that open source projects and their leaders have been guilty of racism, sexism, anti-LGBTQIAism, and other things (viz., Sarah Sharp's recent odd allegations on LKML followed by high-profile flouncing off). Sundry remedies are then requested by the critics: removal of coders from their own projects, codes of conduct with (often) very odd provisions -- see GitHub CoC debacle -- and so on. Your posting might be an oblique way of asking 'Is Eric Raymond just being a jackass?' Or perhaps not. FWIW, I advised Eric that his then-draft broadside against 'SJWs' would be counterproductive, that he should tone his editorial way down, and that while discussing specifics of incidents such as the 'djangoconcardiff' vigilante might be useful, railing against ideology was not. Eric accepted all of my other corrections and suggestions, but rejected that one utterly. Meanwhile, your point is of course well taken, that outreach and an inclusive emphasis yield great benefits. Equally, naturally there are conduct problems within various open source projects, because... humans. IMO, project leaders already had what they needed to deal with that: being project leaders, e.g. 'You're in charge; act that way'. And if outside critics (or anyone else) are still dissatisifed with how open source leaders have processed their complaints, their ultimate remedy is always available: the right to fork. E.g., critic 'djangoconcardiff' avers that a Puerto Rican coder who runs a Django project had declined to merge several patches the critic asserts were from trans or gay code contributors, and feels social justice concerns obliged the coder to both accept those patches and sign a Code of Conduct requiring Right Thinking[tm] henceforth.[1] The coder says no. Quelle horreur! Has injustice been committed? No, pseudonymous complainer 'djangoconcardiff' is utterly free to relieve dissatisfaction by forking his/her git repo and then running his/her fork any way at all. All such dissatisifed critics need is willingness to do the work. If unwilling, they evidently weren't serious. Fin. Roll credits. Eric railing against 'SJWs' was a sideshow and waste of time. However, Don, your equating said epithet with 'supporting the expansion of the demographic pool that the Free Software scene can draw from' also seems problematic. There _is_ a recent pattern of destructive conduct some call 'SJW' activism: rage-mobbing, doxxing, trying to get people fired from their jobs, and outright character assassination of anyone deemed an obstacle. I don't think it's a conspiracy, just a sabotage playbook and meme complex making the rounds. My acquaintance Will Shetterly, longtime science fiction writer, wrote a history of these tactics' development over the last decade within SF publishing and fandom on the Internet, and wrote (in 2014) an interesting free epub on the subject: http://sjwar.blogspot.com/2014/03/my-book-is-done-and-so-am-ion-how-to.html [1] Characterisation is from memory as I'm off-Net at the moment, and not guaranteed. I'm also seriously jet-lagged. Greetings from Sint Maarten / Saint Martin. -- Cheers, "Two things programmers tend to underestimate: Rick Moen 1. How long things take. [email protected] 2. How long our code will be around. McQ! (4x80) 3. How many things we underestimate." @jasongorman _______________________________________________ Do not Cc: anyone else on mail sent to this list. The list server is set for maximum one recipient. linux-elitists mailing list [email protected] http://zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists