Re: apt, yum, up2date, smartpm, ... ?

William Stearns <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.freshrpms.user
Message-ID <Pine.LNX.4.63.0509211459250.7163@sparrow>
Good afternoon, Motor,

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Motor wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:43:31 -0400, William Stearns wrote:
>
> If only... I'm using the version of YUM that comes with FC4:
> yum-2.4.0-0.fc4
>
> and -C seems to do little if anything. Certainly a search like:
>
> yum -C search hello
>
> will error out if I'm not connected to the internet (dial-up).
>
> Add to this Yum's apparent cluelessness when it comes to mirrors -- it
> seemed to be re-downloading mirrored packages lists if the mirror it
> checks hasn't been updated... so every time I ran it, it would choosing a
> random mirror, and updating 300K+ of data, not to mention finding a new
> packages one run and then swearing they doesn't exists the next (dropping
> the mirror lists stopped this).

 	Setting up a local repository with yum-pull does handle the above 
problems (both "too much data heading out over my line" and "I'm 
connecting to different mirrors each time so I get different collections 
of packages and different metadata") because you have a single repository 
server locally.

> Yumdownloader has a nice feature "--urls" for dial-up users... but it
> insists on generating progress output to stdout when common sense would
> suggest that with the --urls option it is being used as part of a chain
> and should just shut up and print the urls... it also gets as confused
> with mirrors as yum, and in addition generates incorrect urls with dries
> repo and had to be hand edited afterwards.
>
> Altogether, yum and utils has been one of the more infuriating set of
> packages I've ever used, and seems to have been designed with barely a
> thought for anyone not on a nice fast permanent connection.

 	Yum-pull is the glue you need to handle that problem, IMHO.
 	Cheers,
 	- Bill

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