OT: Hotel wifi and general update Was: sddm ...
Duncan <[email protected]> Tue, 19 Jul 2016 03:32:00 +0000 (UTC)
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Mark Knecht posted on Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:26:56 -0700 as excerpted: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Duncan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> [N]o worries about *DM at all. I just login at the text prompt >> regardless of whether I'm headed for X or not, and startx just as if i= t >> was any other app I wanted to run at the text prompt. =3D:^) >> > I just knew when I saw you had replied that you'd say that! ;-) =3D:^) =20 > Here at home we share machines. My wife, much less my 86 year old > mother, wouldn't be at all comfortable with a solution being that > technical, and generally speaking, I like to know that graphics are > working when a machine boots vs she logs in, types startx and something > fails - which happened here after the Plasma 5 upgrade. My main machine > has run 3 monitors for years with no xorg.conf file but after the > upgrade it didn't work anymore and X wouldn't start at all. I understand the other, not so technical, people thing. Were I closer to= =20 my folks so it would be practical for me to handle their computer stuff,=20 I imagine I'd do similar with them... As for X not starting at all, that's actually how I ended up with a text- only login a decade and a half ago. I had just switched from MS and=20 still had an nVidia card that I had to run the proprietary drivers on as=20 before I switched I had thought to check for Linux drivers when I bought=20 the card, but I didn't know I had to check for /freedomware/ Linux=20 drivers. Which was a problem as I wanted to build and run the latest=20 kernels and was thus updating kernels frequently. Of course that meant I= =20 had to rebuild the nVidia kernel module rather frequently as well, with=20 the result if I didn't being a failed X and *DM login GUI. Of course that meant I had to do a text login to do the nVidia kernel=20 module build anyway, and that tended to "just work", so once I discovered= =20 startx, I started just logging in at the text console and using startx if= =20 I wanted X/kde. The final straw was when a mandrake cooker (their supposedly faster- updating beta program... that I ultimately left for gentoo when it got a=20 kde feature release plus a bugfix release behind kde upstream) update=20 broke whatever *DM GUI login I was using (whatever the mandrake default=20 was). Simple enough fix for me: just quit using it. =3D:^) > Having a DM is kind of nice when managing other people's experiences bu= t > this sddm choice seems oriented toward single user machine and less > toward general usage cases. I suppose so many people use laptops these > days it makes sense but not for me. >=20 > Good to hear from you. Has the networking thing worked out OK for you? Could be better, could be worse. The wifi-N adapter works reasonably=20 well in the hotel, tho I do have to reboot it every so often as it=20 apparently stops passing the VoIP phone packets after a week or so so and= =20 the VoIP adapter starts flashing and I can't get dialtone. But I sure miss the cable internet, and being able to get youtube @ 1080p= =20 without a system update interfering with the streaming. Much of the time= =20 on the hotel's wifi I can only get 320p, and the other day when I tried=20 to sync (via git) after nearly a month (been busy house shopping, but=20 have one signed up and thru initial inspections now), I had a /terrible/=20 time completing a full git pull on the gentoo repo, as it kept dying part= =20 way thru. There's two ways to look at it: 1) It's "complimentary" wifi provided by the hotel, at least I'm not=20 having to pay the $5/day extra they charge for priority wifi. 2) I (or in my case the city for me) am(/is) /already/ paying $100/day=20 for the room. In this day and age, not having decent internet in lodging= =20 costing that sort of money is entirely ridiculous. I know one thing for sure. If I were paying for it myself, I'd either be= =20 paying way less for the suite, or it WOULD have good internet, even if it= =20 meant a cheap motel and spending the difference on internet. OTOH, the hotel, Homewood Suites by Hilton, does participate in HHonors,=20 the Hilton frequent-stay club, and they get a free internet upgrade. If=20 I were paying for it myself, I imagine I'd be going that route. Given=20 that based on the paperwork I signed, the city is apparently paying=20 standard rate for me anyway, no discounts of their own, I can't imagine=20 I'd be paying /too/ much more as an HHonors member, and possibly less,=20 while getting the internet upgrade in the process. So yeah, mixed-bag, but I'm surviving. I'm about 50 days into the 90-day= =20 booking, and the house (actually condominium) sale is supposed to close=20 in a month (Aug 19), giving me a week or so after to get at least basic=20 furniture in place and move in before the hotel booking runs out, so I'm=20 more than half thru it, now. Other than internet, I've no complaints. Nice enough hotel, and while=20 the city did displace me from my owned trailer, rented space, I'm getting= =20 a MUCH better place I'll actually own the deed to now, that as a rental=20 would go for more than twice the money I was paying where I was, so=20 really, nothing to complain about at all... but for the so-so internet in= =20 the hotel they put me up in for the 90 days... But hey, I was afraid I wouldn't have a stable enough connection to even=20 do youtube and the VoIP phone thing at all, and at least /that/ hasn't=20 been the case. =3D:^) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. 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