Re: has the sun set ?

Philip Webb posted on Tue, 02 Jun 2015 07:00:26 -0400 as excerpted:

> 150601 Martin Walch wrote:
>> On Monday 01 June 2015 05:33:01 Philip Webb wrote:
>>> Using Kde-Sunset, I have  3  useful apps available in forms which
>>> aren't provided by KDE 4 (Kworldclock Ksokoban Kmahjongg).
>> You are probably aware that KDE comes with a kworldclock plasmoid,
>=20
> Yes, but I use Fluxbox to manage my desktop, so that doesn't help. Ther=
e
> is the alternative of Marble, which shows relative timezones,
> but it's clumsy compared with Kworldclock.

There is a plasmoid-in-window executable called plasma-windowed, that can=
=20
be used to run plasmoids as stand-alone apps.  In kde4, plasma-windowed=20
is part of the plasma-workspace package.

I use that here to run (via configured hotkey) the calendar plasmoid in a=
=20
window, since the usual method of launching the calendar, from the clock=20
plasmoid, doesn't work here because I don't have a clock plasmoid,=20
because my clock is part of my superkaramba theme and I thus don't need a=
=20
plasmoid doing the same thing.


Tho building all of plasma and its deps just to run the kworldclock=20
plasmoid using plasma-windowed, seems a bit much.  But if you have other=20
plasmoids of interest, however, or simply can't live without kworldclock=20
no matter what deps you have to build to get it, it's an option.

Meanwhile, I find it a bit... ironic... that just as kde5 is beginning to=
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be seen in distros and I'd say probably about a year before gentoo starts=
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considering dropping kde4 (tho a full kde5 isn't even in-tree yet, so=20
it'll be awhile...), you're barely considering upgrading to kde4 from the=
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kde3 you've been running from the sunset overlay.  I definitely respect=20
that choice and am glad the kde-sunset overlay filled the bill when no=20
gentoo devs were willing to maintain kde3 in-tree any longer, but the=20
timing is just... ironic... is all.

(Meanwhile, I keep trying kde5 from the kde overlay every couple months,=20
and still haven't gotten it to run.  Seems kwin5 goes into an endless=20
crash/respawn cycle, not liking either my radeon turks graphics hardware,=
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or the fact that I'm running triple monitor, or possibly both.  Between=20
that, and the fact that I can't keep kde4 installed at the same time so I=
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can't keep a working kde4 while I try to fix kwin5/kde5, I have to kill=20
kde5 and rollback to kde4 in ordered to get a working system again, so it=
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tends to be 2-4 months between tests. =3D:^( When gentoo/kde decides it's=
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actually working well enough to go in-tree, I'll try again, and file bugs=
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if I can't get it working at that point.)

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