Re: Using Gentoo as server and desktop

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> Thu, 5 Dec 2024 22:11:22 +0100
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Hi!

Thanks a lot!. Sent too, to gentoo-user =F0=9F=98=80=F0=9F=98=80=F0=9F=91=8D=


My main idea is to have an up-to-date kernel for having all the security pat=
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I don=E2=80=99t mind not updating the kernel meajor version or so.. the idea=
 is to have always a fully  security patched kernel=E2=80=A6 not a new one w=
ith better hardware support or a more efficient one or so=E2=80=A6 just a se=
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How do you keep in Gentoo the kernel properly security patched?

Cheers!!

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> El 5 dic 2024, a las 14:07, Dale <[email protected]> escribi=C3=B3:
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> =EF=BB=BFEgoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote:
>> Hi mates,
>>=20
>> I would love using Gentoo as Desktop and Server OS. I used sometime
>> ago, but it caused me the fact of not being able to upgrade my systems
>> weekly or daily, because sometimes you needed to upgrade the kernel
>> and I was not really sure that the config entered for the kernel
>> (loaded through Genkernel but with menuconfig and there load .config
>> file) that was written with previous kernel version building was going
>> to not cause something weird or bad functioning of newer built kernels
>> with that config.
>>=20
>> Does exist a way... where you could emerge world, update all the
>> system, finally end up by upgrading the kernel and being sure that the
>> old .config you used through menuconfig (or by any other way of
>> importing) would not select erroneous parameters in newer kernels?. I
>> though there were some... lint options for the .cofig?. I think I have
>> used them sometime ago....
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>> So for sumarizing, how do you manage for keep your systems up-to-date
>> using Gentoo?. How do you manage to keep your kernel upgraded?.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
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> I update my main system each weekend.  I have a older rig that I upgrade
> once a month, for backup use.  I update my kernel once a year at the
> earliest.  I configure my kernel manually.  After all, unless you add
> hardware, you rarely need to change the config of a kernel once you get
> everything working.  So, one could update the system once a month and
> still not have many problems.  Going two months could cause occasional
> problems but work most of the time.  Update the kernel whenever you
> can.  I have gone two years between kernel upgrades.  I run my main rig
> 24/7.  About the only time I shutdown, when the power fails.=20
>=20
> So, if you use Gentoo, do the install, get a well configured kernel
> where all hardware and software works and then update the system once a
> month or so.  That should make for a fairly up to date system and not
> have to much trouble with upgrades. =20
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> Also, this mailing list is rarely used.  I'm not sure of many even still
> subscribe to this list.  I'd recommend using the -user mailing list.  It
> is for users and you can ask any Gentoo question, desktop, server or
> whatever, you need.=20
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> Dale
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> :-)  :-)
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 5 dic 2024, a las 14:07, Dale &lt;[email protected]&gt; escribi=C3=B3:<b=
r><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
<span>Egoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote:</span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>H=
i mates,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I would love using Gentoo as Des=
ktop and Server OS. I used sometime</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>ago, but it caused me the fact of not being able to upgrade my s=
ystems</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>weekly or dail=
y, because sometimes you needed to upgrade the kernel</span><br></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>and I was not really sure that the config e=
ntered for the kernel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>(loaded through Genkernel but with menuconfig and there load .config</span>=
<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>file) that was written with=
 previous kernel version building was going</span><br></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>to not cause something weird or bad functioning of ne=
wer built kernels</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>wit=
h that config.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span=
><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Does exist a way... where y=
ou could emerge world, update all the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><span>system, finally end up by upgrading the kernel and being su=
re that the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>old .conf=
ig you used through menuconfig (or by any other way of</span><br></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>importing) would not select erroneous para=
meters in newer kernels?. I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span>though there were some... lint options for the .cofig?. I think I hav=
e</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>used them sometime a=
go....</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>So for sumarizing, how do you mana=
ge for keep your systems up-to-date</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>using Gentoo?. How do you manage to keep your kernel upgraded?.=
</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Cheers,</span><br></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span=
><br><span>I update my main system each weekend.&nbsp; I have a older rig th=
at I upgrade</span><br><span>once a month, for backup use.&nbsp; I update my=
 kernel once a year at the</span><br><span>earliest.&nbsp; I configure my ke=
rnel manually.&nbsp; After all, unless you add</span><br><span>hardware, you=
 rarely need to change the config of a kernel once you get</span><br><span>e=
verything working.&nbsp; So, one could update the system once a month and</s=
pan><br><span>still not have many problems.&nbsp; Going two months could cau=
se occasional</span><br><span>problems but work most of the time.&nbsp; Upda=
te the kernel whenever you</span><br><span>can.&nbsp; I have gone two years b=
etween kernel upgrades.&nbsp; I run my main rig</span><br><span>24/7.&nbsp; A=
bout the only time I shutdown, when the power fails.&nbsp;</span><br><span><=
/span><br><span>So, if you use Gentoo, do the install, get a well configured=
 kernel</span><br><span>where all hardware and software works and then updat=
e the system once a</span><br><span>month or so.&nbsp; That should make for a=
 fairly up to date system and not</span><br><span>have to much trouble with u=
pgrades.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><br><span></span><br><span>Also, this mailing lis=
t is rarely used.&nbsp; I'm not sure of many even still</span><br><span>subs=
cribe to this list.&nbsp; I'd recommend using the -user mailing list.&nbsp; I=
t</span><br><span>is for users and you can ask any Gentoo question, desktop,=
 server or</span><br><span>whatever, you need.&nbsp;</span><br><span></span>=
<br><span>Dale</span><br><span></span><br><span>:-)&nbsp; :-)</span><br><spa=
n></span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>=

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