Re: news item: Introduction of app-alternatives/coreutils
moltonel 3x Combo <[email protected]>
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 22:29, Eli Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote: > > The update should be transparent to most users, read on for further > > details. > > If it is truly transparent, I wonder that we need a news post. "should be transparent for most". We're being cautious here, coreutils is a critical package. And even for those trouble-free updates, it's worth mentioning the upcoming file collision warning and how to actually switch if people are interested, like we did for previous app-alternative ebuilds. > > If uutils-coreutils is available for your arch and profile, you > > can select it by setting `app-alternatives/coreutils -gnu uutils` in > > your packages.use. > > > > If you want to postpone or revert the transition, mask the > > corresponding ebuild versions: > > ... this sounds like advice for "the default is switching to uutils, how > do I opt out" -- but the actual thing is opt-in. I'll see if I can make this clearer. > Please remove ALL advice on using uutils, and add it to a wiki page instead. That feels overkill. IMHO showing how to select the alternative is a basic bit of info that deserves to be here. And in the end, it's just a USE flag, no need for a wiki page. > ... but this is more distracting messages regarding "nothing changed". > None of this is useful to news readers. I feel that "completions might not work as you expect" is an interesting gotcha to document, but if there's consensus I can remove that paragraph. > Overall I recommend completely re-aligning this News item to match the > purpose of the news: tell people affected by a default/mandatory change > to packages/repos/profiles they have installed or used, that *they* will > *need* to do or be careful about something. I feel that's already essentially what this new item is doing. > But the support migration to unlock choice is itself something > potentially worthy of a news item, solely because it may break systems > which do not intend to locally set any USE flags. Thus, the news item > should stick to describing how to successfully update. Just to be clear: there's no need to set any USE flag to get a successful update.