Re: Agenda for the meeting 2013-10-24 20:00UTC

"Anthony G. Basile" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.gentoo.hardened
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 10/22/2013 02:06 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 10/22/2013 01:09 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
>>
>> 4.0 Selinux
>> 5.0 System Integrity
>> 6.0 Profile
>> I'd like to specifically discuss bringing back the desktop profile by
>> user request.
>>
>>
> The old desktop/server/developer profiles were removed for a good 
> reason.  They cannot stack properly given their directory location and 
> conflicting inheritance requirements.  We cannot bring them back as 
> they were else we will re-introduce the ancient multilib vs 
> non-mutlilib selinux issue in one manifestation or another.
>
> Nonetheless, I think a desktop profile for hardened is possible along 
> the lines of what was done for selinux, ie put it in features.  Only 
> if the desktop profile lands at the very bottom of the profile stack 
> will this work.  Alternatively, you can duplicate the desktop profile 
> from default/linux in hardened/linux and do a simple inheritance from 
> its parent.  This "duplication" would really not be much of a 
> duplication because there's probably stuff you want to tweak for your 
> own purposes.
>
> I was going to remove those deprecated directories today, but I can 
> hold off.  To be clear, I'm not against a hardened desktop profile, 
> just not the implementation we had which was broken.
>
Actually I was wrong in saying "only if it lands at the bottom of the 
profile stack" ... That is in fact the problem:

/usr/portage/profiles/base
/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux
/usr/portage/profiles/arch/base
/usr/portage/profiles/features/multilib
/usr/portage/profiles/features/multilib/lib32
/usr/portage/profiles/arch/amd64
/usr/portage/profiles/releases
/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files
/usr/portage/profiles/releases/13.0

/usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux
/usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/amd64
/usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop
/usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/amd64/desktop

So "profiles/targets/desktop" basically trump 
"profiles/hardened/linux/amd64" which is the problem: a non-hardened 
profile can undo the hardening.  We have to get something like this:


/usr/portage/profiles/base
/usr/portage/profiles/default/linux
/usr/portage/profiles/arch/base
/usr/portage/profiles/features/multilib
/usr/portage/profiles/features/multilib/lib32
/usr/portage/profiles/arch/amd64
/usr/portage/profiles/releases
/usr/portage/profiles/eapi-5-files
/usr/portage/profiles/releases/13.0

/usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop
/usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux
/usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/amd64

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