Re: grsec denying gradm, system unusuable

I run learning while RBAC is disabled. So without gradm -E.
I'm not sure what's wrong with your setup, but learning mode does not
require the RBAC to be active.
-- 
dr Tóth Attila, Radiológus, 06-20-825-8057
Attila Toth MD, Radiologist, +36-20-825-8057

2014.Február 23.(V) 10:20 időpontban John Tate ezt írta:
> How does it learn about the gradm -E before I've ran it. Running it
> kills the system, whereupon there is no /etc/grsec to write any rules
> to. I've thought of this, and it doesn't work.
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:06 PM, "Tóth Attila" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Just give gradm learning a try without a prior gradm -E.
>> After you can generate an initial set of rules for your policy, you can
>> start fine-tuning it for some specific applications.
>> --
>> dr Tóth Attila, Radiológus, 06-20-825-8057
>> Attila Toth MD, Radiologist, +36-20-825-8057
>>
>> 2014.Február 17.(H) 23:26 időpontban John Tate ezt írta:
>>> BTW, I was supposed to delete the first two lines of that email.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:25 AM, John Tate <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> What should that stuff be so gradm works. I tried add
>>>>
>>>> Also the wiki instructs me to issue gradm -E before putting it in
>>>> learning mode.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried adding some lines to the admin role myself but the same
>>>> problem occurs, and gradm can no longer find /dev/grsec..
>>>>
>>>> role admin sA
>>>> subject / rvka
>>>>         / rwcdmlxi
>>>> subject /sbin/gradm
>>>>         /etc/grsec rwx
>>>>         /dev/grsec rw
>>>>         +CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE
>>>>
>>>> It would be good if you could just help me get started by giving
>>>> enough so that gradm -D will work so I can still work on the system
>>>> without a reboot. At this point it is tedious.
>>>>
>>>> Also either the Wiki page is out of date and the advise no longer
>>>> works, or the problem is actually some kernel option I've enabled:
>>>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hardened/Grsecurity2_Quickstart
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:03 AM, "Tóth Attila" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I think you should not issue gradm -E before activating learning
>>>>> mode.
>>>>> Also make sure to populate your policy with at least some default
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> for the admin role before enabling it. The example policy file gives
>>>>> a
>>>>> starting point.
>>>>> --
>>>>> dr Tóth Attila, Radiológus, 06-20-825-8057
>>>>> Attila Toth MD, Radiologist, +36-20-825-8057
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014.Február 17.(H) 20:29 időpontban John Tate ezt írta:
>>>>>> I am new to grsecurity I am having a problem when I enable RBAC,
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> grsecurity denies gradm and certain directories such as /etc/grsec
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> inaccessible, and even /dev/grsec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gentoo ~ # gradm -E
>>>>>> gentoo ~ # gradm -F -L /etc/grsec/learning.log
>>>>>> Could not open /dev/grsec.
>>>>>> open: Permission denied
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /var/log/messages contains this...
>>>>>> Feb 16 22:40:56 gentoo kernel: [  659.863486] grsec: From
>>>>>> 192.168.0.3:
>>>>>> (default:D:/sbin/gradm) use of CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE denied for
>>>>>> /sbin/gradm[gradm:3315] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent
>>>>>> /bin/bash[bash:1876] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CONFIG_AUTO is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CONFIG_CUSTOM=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_TPE_UNTRUSTED_GID=101
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_KMEM=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_IO=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_PERF_HARDEN=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_RAND_THREADSTACK=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_PROC_MEMMAP=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_BRUTE=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_MODHARDEN=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_HIDESYM=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_KERN_LOCKOUT=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_NO_RBAC is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_ACL_HIDEKERN=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_ACL_MAXTRIES=3
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_ACL_TIMEOUT=60
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_PROC=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_PROC_USER=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_PROC_ADD=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_LINK=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SYMLINKOWN is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_FIFO=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SYSFS_RESTRICT=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_ROFS is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_DEVICE_SIDECHANNEL=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_MOUNT=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_DOUBLE=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_PIVOT=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_CHDIR=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_CHMOD=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_FCHDIR=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_MKNOD=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_SHMAT=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_UNIX=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_FINDTASK=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_NICE=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_SYSCTL=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_CAPS=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_AUDIT_GROUP=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_AUDIT_GID=100
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_EXECLOG=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_RESLOG=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_CHROOT_EXECLOG=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_AUDIT_PTRACE=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_AUDIT_CHDIR=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_AUDIT_MOUNT=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SIGNAL=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_FORKFAIL=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_TIME=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_PROC_IPADDR=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_RWXMAP_LOG=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_DMESG=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_HARDEN_PTRACE=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_PTRACE_READEXEC=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SETXID is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_TPE=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_TPE_ALL=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_TPE_INVERT is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_TPE_GID=101
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_RANDNET=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_BLACKHOLE=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_NO_SIMULT_CONNECT=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SOCKET is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_DENYUSB is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SYSCTL=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SYSCTL_DISTRO is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SYSCTL_ON=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_SELINUX_AVC_LOG_IPADDR is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_FLOODTIME=10
>>>>>> CONFIG_GRKERNSEC_FLOODBURST=6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help would really be appreciated to get this working, because I'm
>>>>>> quite new to this and I have no idea what I've missed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.johntate.org
>>>>>>
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