missing the meeting

Hi fellow hardened devs:

I'm sorry for missing the meeting but things came up and the day got 
hectic.  It is an important meeting because we were to discuss:

1) what we want with toolchain.eclass - There is a move to get rid of 
the eclas because it is "messy".  This is probably a bad thing in 
general and especially for hardened so we should discuss the pros and 
cons and what we want.

2) what to do about tar and POSIX capabilities in the context of 
building stage3's.  Utilities like ping that used to be setuid to root 
are now just using posix caps.  But preserving xattrs with tar is 
tricky.  Since we dealt with this for the user.pax.* xattr namespace 
jmbsvicetto asked us to look at security.capability.  However, the issue 
may now be mute because I just got a message from him that

tar --xattrs --xattrs-include=security.capability 
--xattrs-include=user.* --acls -xjpvf

works to get us all the xattr goodies we need for hardened and gentoo in 
general.


We should try to discuss 1 soon-ish before Cthulu awakens and madness 
reigns in gentoo.

-- 
Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D.
Chair of Information Technology
D'Youville College
Buffalo, NY 14201
(716) 829-8197