Re: version 0.3 of the Gentoo Linux Installer
"Ashley McConnell" <[email protected]> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:44:13 -0500
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------=_Part_1274_17382399.1141145053976 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Isn't it intuitive anyways to have the programs selected to be added to use flags? it just makes sense wether or not someone reads the manual On 2/28/06, LinuxMan <[email protected]> wrote: > > What sort of attitude is that to tempt new users to Gentoo, or anyone for > that matter. Surely the installer should be aiming to make installation > not > just easier but also easier and better than the rest. Otherwise what's th= e > point? If that's your attitude you might as well not bothered with the > installer and just told everyone to read the manual instead!! I think > Norman > has a valid point and your answer doesn't do his question justice. I'm > concerned that there are potential new users who could add to Gentoo, who > are going elsewhere because of confusing options and attitudes that don't > help anyone. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Gaffney [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 28 February 2006 16:00 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] version 0.3 of the Gentoo Linux > Installer > > > Simon Stelling wrote: > > Norman Rie=DF wrote: > >> But see it with the eyes of a random Gentoo beginner. > >> You come to the "USE Flags" screen seeing some settings. You think > "That > >> are surely some nice settings. Otherwise they wouldn=B4t be set as > default". > >> But then you choose KDE. Now you have a KDE system with "+gnome -kde" > as > >> USE Flags. > > > > If people are not willing to read documentation, that's their fault. > Being > a > > newbie or a sysadmin++, it doesn't matter. > > You took the words from my mouth. > > -- > Andrew Gaffney http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney= / > Gentoo Linux Developer Installer Projec= t > > -- > [email protected] mailing list > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.0/269 - Release Date: 24/02/2006 > > > -- > [email protected] mailing list > > ------=_Part_1274_17382399.1141145053976 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Isn't it intuitive anyways to have the programs selected to be added to use= flags? it just makes sense wether or not someone reads the manual<br><br><= div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2/28/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">L= inuxMan </b> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</= a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:= 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex= ;"> What sort of attitude is that to tempt new users to Gentoo, or anyone for<b= r>that matter. Surely the installer should be aiming to make installation n= ot<br>just easier but also easier and better than the rest. Otherwise what'= s the <br>point? If that's your attitude you might as well not bothered with the<= br>installer and just told everyone to read the manual instead!! I think No= rman<br>has a valid point and your answer doesn't do his question justice. = I'm <br>concerned that there are potential new users who could add to Gentoo, w= ho<br>are going elsewhere because of confusing options and attitudes that d= on't<br>help anyone.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Andrew = Gaffney [mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>]<br>Sent: 28= February 2006 16:00<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= .org">[email protected]</a><br>Subject: Re: [gentoo-install= er] version=20 0.3 of the Gentoo Linux<br>Installer<br><br><br>Simon Stelling wrote:<br>&g= t; Norman Rie=DF wrote:<br>>> But see it with the eyes of a random Ge= ntoo beginner.<br>>> You come to the "USE Flags" screen see= ing some settings. You think "That <br>>> are surely some nice settings. Otherwise they wouldn=B4t be se= t as<br>default".<br>>> But then you choose KDE. Now you have a = KDE system with "+gnome -kde" as<br>>> USE Flags.<br>> <br>> If people are not willing to read documentation, that's their faul= t. Being<br>a<br>> newbie or a sysadmin++, it doesn't matter.<br><br>You= took the words from my mouth.<br><br>--<br>Andrew Gaffney  = ; &n= bsp;  = ; <a href=3D"http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffney/">http://dev.gentoo.org/~agaffne= y/</a><br>Gentoo Linux Developer &= nbsp; &nbs= p; &= nbsp; Installer Project<br><br>--<br><a href=3D"mailto:gentoo-install= [email protected]">[email protected] </a> mailing list<br><br><br><br>--<br>No virus found in this incoming mess= age.<br>Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br>Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: = 268.1.0/269 - Release Date: 24/02/2006<br><br><br>--<br><a href=3D"mailto:g= [email protected]"> [email protected]</a> mailing list<br><br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_1274_17382399.1141145053976-- -- [email protected] mailing list