Re: Java/Gentoo IDE integration-------about Jython version

Hi Serkan,

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 16:56, Serkan Kaba <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 06-05-2011 18:10, Kyle Pan wrote:
>> Hi Serkan,
>>
>> During the past few days I was =C2=A0putting my hands =C2=A0to write dem=
os for
>> querying java-config vars and here's a issue aroused during finding
>> documentation to read I'd like to discuss with you.
>>
>> I want to make sure that can I base my Java part of work on Jython
>> 2.5. Currently, in gentoo portage tree =C2=A0there're three main version=
s
>> of Jython, namely 2.1,2.2 and 2.5.(under dev-java/jython). The current
>> marked stable one is 2.2. So at first I intended to base my Java part
>> development on 2.2. However, =C2=A0I browsed all around the Jython offic=
ial
>> page(http://www.jython.org/), =C2=A0but cannot find documentation
>> specialized to 2.2(even such basic info like which Python version it
>> implements , etc). All documentation currently on www.jython.org is
>> for 2.5 release.
>> According to Jython website, 2.5 is the latest major release and
>> highly recommended by Jython project, recognized as a "major leap
>> forward"(http://www.jython.org/jythonbook/en/1.0/) and the most
>> important is that it is =C2=A0well-documented. Also, It implements Pytho=
n
>> 2.5.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jython,Status and roadmap section),
>> while currently I cannot find Jython 2.2 implements which version of
>> Python.
>>
>> So I'd strongly prefer to base my Java part development on Jython 2.5.
>> =C2=A0Firstly, If I base it on 2.2 , the doc I can learn from and rely o=
n
>> would be a big problem for me. I cannot find =C2=A0documentation
>> specialized for Jython 2.2 . All well documentation currently I can
>> find on Jython website is for 2.5 now. Secondly, compared to 2.5, 2,2
>> is an old release. 2.5 is trend and officially promoted one.
>> The only concern about using 2.5 is it is currently marked as ~x86 and
>> ~amd64, but I don't think it's a big problem because it's the trend
>> and as time goes on 2.5 will be marked stable, and I believe it won't
>> take too long to happen.
>>
>> Of course I will also take it into consideration and try my best to
>> make my code work both on 2.2 and 2.5. (That's the best. However,
>> since 2.5 is "major forward" to 2.2, the differences between them may
>> be not small, so it may be not easy work to make the codes compatible
>> with both. ) If this situation happens, I'd =C2=A0prefer guarantee
>> compatibility to 2.5.
>>
>> So If it's acceptable, I =C2=A0start to code using Jython 2.5. However, =
it
>> would always be better to consult you before any decision is made, I
>> think:)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
> Hi Kyle,
>
> It's nice to hear back from you. So I understand that you're making
> progress. In my opinion, depending on bleeding edge software isn't a
> problem, so go ahead. These 2 versions are in different slots and
> considered as 2 different packages (Side note: Think about how to treat
> them in your plugin)
>
> Another thing I want to mention is about communication. It's best to
> communicate via our gentoo-java ML instead of personal emails (unless
> there's something *personal*). You can find info on how to subscribe in
> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml
Ok. From now on I'll post to/CC gentoo-java when appropriate.

>
> Did you decide on the name? (I have a suggestion of GenEclipse) I'll
> create the SVN tree and get your commit rights setup. Once that's done.
> I would like to have your demo codes online as well. They,in the future,
> will evolve into the plugin. This also makes your progress visible.
Though I had proposed JarImporter, GenEclipse is better , I think. So
choose GenEclipse would be ok.


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> Sincerely,
> Serkan KABA
> Gentoo Developer
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With Best Regards,
Kyle Pan