Re: Re: Maven from source - version 2.x or 3.x ?

Kasun Gajasinghe wrote:

> Hi J=C3=B6rg, and Robert,
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>>> FWIW one unresolved challenge for linux distributions with the rise o=
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>>> bytecode languages (such as Java) is that compressed bytecodes are no=
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>>> binaries in the usual sense (platform dependent machine executable
>>> machine code). i know that it's a hard thing for the linux community
>>> to hear but it's about time that the community acknowledged that thes=
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>>> languages are now mainstream and stop trying to force them into a
>>> inappropriate provisioning model.
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> So... what exactly are you suggesting? Switch in to using binaries
> instead of building from source paradigm?

For Java: Yes. Use flags are still useful for dropping optional deps. I=20
recommended that already years ago.

>> To build Maven from source in Gentoo I wonder about the hen-and-egg
>> problem.
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> Yes. To Bootstrap maven, the work around for this is by: first
> generate ANT build.xml via `mvn ant:ant`. maven-bin will provide the
> mvn command in this case. Then patch that build.xml to the source.
> After that, ANT will take care of the building from source.
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> If any of you is interested, you are welcome to have a look at the
> proposal for Maven from source for Gentoo [1]. Feedback is much
> appreciated.
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> [1]
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[http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/kasun_ga=
jasinghe/1

One hint only: You might take a closer look at Tycho. That one replaces t=
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default dependency mechanism with a DependencyResolver that reads the=20
dependencies from the OSGi entries in the manifest and uses a complete=20
different repo layout (more or less what you see, when you look into=20
Eclipse's plugins directory). It might be possible to develop a solution=20
that uses similar hooks into the Maven core - to resolve deps and to supp=
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a different repo layout. However, that requires a Gentoo-version of Maven=
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...

- J=C3=B6rg