Re: [PATCH] portage.output: Replace darkblue colors with teal

James Beddek <[email protected]> Sat, 04 Dec 2021 09:50:46 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.linux.gentoo.portage.devel
Message-ID <10440824.nUPlyArG6x@desktop>
On Saturday, 4 December 2021 10:47:53 PM NZDT Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 04-12-2021 10:24:23 +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Sat, 2021-12-04 at 10:15 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > > On 04-12-2021 10:13:09 +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2021-12-04 at 09:56 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > > > > Why don't you change your color.map instead of changing the default
> > > > > for
> > > > > everyone?
> > > > 
> > > > Why should we keep a stupid default?  Should we optimize Gentoo for
> > > > people who don't want to be able to read Portage's output?
> > > 
> > > You're assuming everyone uses the terminal in the way you do.  I simply
> > > don't think that's how the world looks like.
> > 
> > On the other hand, you're assuming that everyone uses the terminal
> > in the way you do.
> 
> It eludes me how you came to that conclusion.
> 
> > > No need for calling things stupid, IMO.
> > 
> > Using dark blue on black background is stupid.
> 
> ... then don't use black background or dark blue text?
> 
> Now, if you would make a supported claim that all terminals we install
> use a black background by default, your change becomes more valid.
> 

Well IMO, teal is still easy to read against a black & white background, where 
darkblue is almost impossible on black. This just seems like a sensible 
default

> However, we then still don't know if people leave that default or use
> something else, but we could make some educated guess about the amount
> of people not changing the default.
> 
> My point, because I think this wasn't clear to you, is and always was,
> how many people is this change going to be disruptive to.  And should
> we make a hint to users when they install this version of Portage that
> they can revert/change this by altering color.map (and how)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Fabian
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