Re: Lenovo x390 will not poweroff unless the power button is pressed to complete.

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Tomtom,

Thanks for the immediate update. Ubuntu 22.04.5 Pro was working fine on
this x390 until December 28, 2024. I accidentally clicked on the button to
upgrade to 24.04 and this issues began then. The Lenovo x470 has the same
OS setup as the x390 and there are no issues. I tried Debian 12 in January
and there were issues. Recently I learned Debian 13 is available. I also
tried Fedora 41 and there were issues as well. I am going to consider to
two linux versions you suggested.

Thanks from Bronx, New York

Myles

On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 5:57=E2=80=AFPM tomtom--- via Linux-Thinkpad <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know what is the origin of this error, all I can say is that I ca=
n
> really recommend anybody, especially with Thinkpads that are a bit older,
> to use either Debian or Linux Mint Debian Edition.  I have used either of
> the two on various Thinkpads over many years and hardly experienced any
> Probems. I totally abandoned Ubuntu when they first integrated Google
> Search and other questionable things, probably 18 years ago or so.
>
> Writing from a X390 with LMDE
>
> Greetings from Vienna,
> Tom
>
>
>
> 5. Apr. 2025, 23:36 von [email protected]:
>
> I created a mini video of a Lenovo x470 running Ubuntu 22.04.5=F0=9F=A4=
=94
>
> I learned both laptops have different xhci controllers.
>
> x390: 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP USB 3.1
> xHCI Controller (rev 30)
>
> x470: 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0
> xHCI Controller (rev 21)
>
> https://youtu.be/aEPVJFGvk5c
>
> Myles
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 10:53=E2=80=AFPM Yves Dorfsman via Linux-Thinkpad =
<
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 2025-04-02 18:24, [email protected] wrote:
> > This is a new Ubuntu 22.04.5 Pro installation. Initially up until
> December 28, 2024 there was no issue a complete powering off. Clicked on
> the pop up screen to upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 and this is when the iss=
ue
> began. I have upgraded the bios from 1.75 to 1.80, followed and completed=
 a
> number of suggestions but the laptop will not turn off. Interesting enoug=
h
> I am testing a dual-boot x470 with the same linux distro plus windows 11.
> This issue does not happen on this laptop.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> It could be a hardware issue. Any reason you're using Ubuntu 22.04 over
> 24.04 (the current LTS). What happens when you boot from Ubuntu live USB
> image, can you shutdown it down from the command line, or from the gnome
> menu?
>
>
> Yves.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Tomtom,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the immed=
iate update. Ubuntu 22.04.5 Pro was working fine on this x390 until Decembe=
r 28, 2024. I accidentally clicked on the button to upgrade to 24.04 and th=
is issues began then. The Lenovo x470 has the same OS setup as the x390 and=
 there are no issues. I tried Debian 12 in January and there were issues. R=
ecently I learned Debian 13 is available. I also tried Fedora 41 and there =
were issues as well. I am going to consider to two linux versions you sugge=
sted.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks from Bronx, New York</div><div><br></=
div><div>Myles</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_contain=
er"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 5:57=E2=80=
=AFPM tomtom--- via Linux-Thinkpad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t know what is the origin of this error, all I =
can say is that I can really recommend anybody, especially with Thinkpads t=
hat are a bit older, to use either Debian or Linux Mint Debian Edition.=C2=
=A0 I have used either of the two on various Thinkpads over many years and =
hardly experienced any Probems. I totally abandoned Ubuntu when they first =
integrated Google Search and other questionable things, probably 18 years a=
go or so.<br><br>Writing from a X390 with LMDE<br><br>Greetings from Vienna=
,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Tom</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">5. Apr. 2025, =
23:36 von <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">m=
[email protected]</a>:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div dir=3D"auto">I created a mini video of a Lenovo x470 running Ubuntu =
22.04.5=F0=9F=A4=94<br></div><div><br></div><div>I learned both laptops hav=
e different xhci controllers.=C2=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div>x390:=C2=
=A0<span style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">00:14.0 USB controller: I=
ntel Corporation Cannon Point-LP USB 3.1 xHCI Controller (rev 30)</span><br=
></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></span><br></div=
><div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">x470=
:=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">00:14.0 USB co=
ntroller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 2=
1)</span><span style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></div><d=
iv><br></div><div><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"https://youtu.be/a=
EPVJFGvk5c" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/aEPVJFGvk5c</a><br></div></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Myles<br></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 10:53=E2=80=AFPM Yves Dorfsman vi=
a Linux-Thinkpad &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:linux-th=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.=
org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">O=
n 2025-04-02 18:24, <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:mylesmora=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> wrote:<=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> &gt; This is a new Ubuntu 22.04.5 Pro installat=
ion. Initially up until December 28, 2024 there was no issue a complete pow=
ering off. Clicked on the pop up screen to upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 and =
this is when the issue began. I have upgraded the bios from 1.75 to 1.80, f=
ollowed and completed a number of suggestions but the laptop will not turn =
off. Interesting enough I am testing a dual-boot x470 with the same linux d=
istro plus windows 11. This issue does not happen on this laptop.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"> &gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> &gt; Any suggestions?<=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> <br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> It could be a hard=
ware issue. Any reason you&#39;re using Ubuntu 22.04 over 24.04 (the curren=
t LTS). What happens when you boot from Ubuntu live USB image, can you shut=
down it down from the command line, or from the gnome menu?<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"> <br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> <br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> Yves=
.<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> <br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> ________________=
_______________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"> Linux-Thinkpad =
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