Re: What's going on guys?

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Rex Dieter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Rex Dieter <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [ snip ]
>>
>>>> 1. The "powers that be" of Fedora still seem to consider KDE a "second
>>>> class" citizen.
>>> Really, what makes you think that?
>>
>> The ongoing '"Default" spin of Fedora' thread leads me to believe that
>> things are far from cozy. Maybe "powers that be" was a poor choice of
>> words.
>
> Yeah, that's lame.  They should just own-up and call it the gnome spin.
>  They *claim* the "Desktop" spin includes only best-of-breed apps... if
> so, where is k3b or amarok (among other very fine and deserving kde apps)?

Exactly, I understand the decision to use Gnome as a default, but not
making it clear that the user only gets Gnome is unfair (in that spin)

>> What I don't have a grasp of is the
>> significance of the numbers.
>>
>> I like KDE and I like the Fedora community, but how much effort can
>> you guys put in for what could literally eventually be for only dozens
>> of user?
>
> Don't sell KDE short.  There are *many* kde users, particularly outside
> the US.

Okay, thanks for that assurance, I had no grasp of that myself.

>> The combined effect of highlighting a single "Desktop Spin" and the
>> some what unintuitive procedure from getting a clean KDE desktop from
>> the DVD media doesn't seem to bode well for us.
>
> I'm curious, what is your definition of "clean KDE desktop" ?

See your next paragraph.

> My current beef is that gdm is unconditionally installed everywhere
> (except when using KDE Live image), and I'm working on getting that
> resolved for F10.

Having Gnome apps in the KDE spin is fine by me. I actually like that
the system-config tools are in Gtk, although I wish that they have no
*gnome* deps.

However, choosing KDE when installing and getting GDM on your first
successful boot is definitely confusing when you first get started
with Fedora at least.

>> On a more positive note, if at some time in the future, I can commit
>> to maintain a website or sub-site to highlight KDE in fedora efforts,
>> would that be considered a good idea? or something that may breed
>> additional division?
>
> That would be fabulous.  Would be ideal to host such information within
> fedora's site/wiki, but beggars can't be choosers. :)

I will look into it, and get back to you. Pre migration, I had wiki
access, but wiki aren't all that good for "rich content".

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