Re: Re: OpenSS7 GPL'd LiS.

"Brian F. G. Bidulock" <[email protected]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:41:05 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.linux.kernel.streams
Organization http://www.openss7.org/
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Dan,

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Dan Gora wrote:

> 
> --- "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Dave,
> > 
> > Thank you.  I don't see that LiS-2.18.1 can cause confusion as
> > there is no other LiS-2.18.1 release.
> 
> The point is not whether or not a LiS 2.18.1 release exists yet or
> not.  The point is that you are completely changing the licensing
> terms of the product and just changing a release number.  Since
> changing the licensing terms makes the product completely
> unacceptable to many, many people who use it, it seems that this
> warrants some more forceful distinction....

No, I changed the licensing on our 2.16.16 and 2.16.18 releases last
year, not just now.

> 
> > If anyone else is willing to step up and maintain LiS releases
> > in the near future and needs these version numbers, please speak
> > now.
> > 
> 
> Why does someone need to step forward now?  Who made you the guardian
> of LiS?

For goodness sake!  They don't have to, I just asked: I even used
the word "please".

> 
> > I certainly cannot force anyone to use a release, however, I'm
> > pretty sure it will get used by some: the GPL'ed LiS-2.16.18-19
> > and strxnet-0.9.2-4 are downloaded 20 times a day.
> 
> I'm sure that people do use it, but GPL LiS is unacceptable to anyone
> who makes commercial propriatary software that uses it.

OpenSS7 Corporation can give you license to use it as LGPL if you really
want to: but I doubt that you want to pay anthing -- I'm sure you would
prefer to continue to be a free rider.

> 
> > Also realize that at present my intention is to drop support for
> > LiS the moment that Linux Fast-STREAMS is production grade and
> > replaces LiS, at which time LiS can go back to being completely
> > unsupported.
> 
> So, if you have no intentions of supporting this in the future, then
> why are you even bothering?  If you are just going to create
> confusion for everone for one release, then don't bother.  People
> have been getting along just fine without RPM support for 18 versions
> now.

Its a lot more than just RPM support:

 899 files changed, 126911 insertions(+), 20307 deletions(-)

> 
> > BTW, the name for the Linux Fast-STREAMS package is currently
> > streams-0.7a.3.
> 
> It doesn't really matter since no one except you has ever even seen
> the mythical "Fast-STREAMS"....

Me and the subscribers and sponsors of the OpenSS7 Project.  I offered
to post an alpha copy for you to peruse, but now I'm not so sure.  I
suppose it doesn't matter, 'cause you won't use it anyway: its GPL.

--brian

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