Re: GPL/LGPL
Dave Grothe <[email protected]> Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:13:19 -0500
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--=====================_1467797371==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Took you awhile to come up with that one, didn't it? First, you are the original violator of the GPL=20 since you conveyed these files to me and did not=20 accompany them with a copy of the GPL, or request=20 that I add a copy of the GPL to the LiS=20 distribution. So it would be fair to argue that=20 you have waived your rights to this requirement. Second, this "violation" is easily remedied by=20 simply adding a copy of the full GPL in a file=20 included with the LiS distribution. Third, there is a clause in the license notice in=20 the files themselves that render this requirement suspect. > You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along= with > this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 675= Mass > Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA. In other words, you make provision in your notice=20 that the recipient may not have received a copy=20 of the license and what to do about it if he/she=20 did not. (This is standard GNU recommend language.) All that notwithstanding I am perfectly happy to=20 remove OpenSS7 code from the LiS=20 distribution. There is nothing of use to me=20 within LiS that uses any of it anyway. -- Dave At 12:50 PM 9/7/2006, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: >Dave, > >Regardless of whether your modified sources are considered simple >aggregation (which they cannot), your fundamental gpl-violation is that >you did not include a copy of the license per Section 1 of the GPL. >Thus your distribution is in violation of the GPL, and your attempt to >distribute the files without a copy of the license means that, for you, >the license is void and terminates. Anyone else that has redistributed >LiS-2.18.0 from your site without including the license, such as Steve, >is also in fundamental violation of the GPL and the license to these >files was void and terminated. As we follow a dual-licensing model, >punitive damages may have resulted from these gpl violations. For more >information, see http://www.gpl-violations.org/ > >--brian > >On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Dave Grothe wrote: > > > > > Sorry, Charlie. > > From GNU GPL license version 2: > > > > In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the > > Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a > > volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other > > work under the scope of this License. > > > > and > > > > You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program > > except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt > > otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is > > void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this > > License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from > > you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so > > long as such parties remain in full compliance. > > > > So you have no right to revoke the terms and conditions of the= GPL. > > And my mere aggregation of these files is in full compliance. = Steve > > and others can speak for themselves. > > -- Dave > > At 04:48 PM 8/30/2006, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: > > > > Dave, > > ./include/tihdr.h > > ./include/timod.h > > ./include/sys/tihdr.h > > ./include/sys/timod.h > > ./include/sys/tpi.h > > ./include/sys/xti.h > > ./include/sys/xti_inet.h > > ./include/sys/xti_sctp.h > > ./include/sys/xti_xti.h > > ./include/sys/xti_ip.h > > ./include/sys/xti_tcp.h > > ./include/sys/xti_udp.h > > ./include/xti/config.h > > ./include/xti/tihdr.h > > ./include/xti/timod.h > > ./include/xti/xti_atm.h > > ./include/xti/xti.h > > ./include/xti/xti_inet.h > > ./include/xti/xti_ip.h > > ./include/xti/xti_local.h > > ./include/xti/xti_mosi.h > > ./include/xti/xti_osi.h > > ./include/xti/xti_sctp.h > > ./include/xti/xti_tcp.h > > ./include/xti/xti_udp.h > > ./include/xti.h > > ./include/xti_inet.h > > Your license to copy and distribute these files is revoked. Please > > remove them from your website. > > --brian > > -- > > Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to= the > > =A6 > > [email protected] =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists= in > > =A6 > > [1]http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world = to > > himself. =A6 > > =A6 Therefore all progress depends on= the > > =A6 > > =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard= Shaw > > =A6 > > > > References > > > > 1. http://www.openss7.org/ > >-- >Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the =A6 >[email protected] =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in =A6 >http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world to himself. =A6 > =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the =A6 > =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw =A6 --=====================_1467797371==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <body> <font size=3D3>Took you awhile to come up with that one, didn't it?<br><br> First, you are the original violator of the GPL since you conveyed these files to me and did not accompany them with a copy of the GPL, or request that I add a copy of the GPL to the LiS distribution. So it would be fair to argue that you have waived your rights to this requirement.<br><br> Second, this "violation" is easily remedied by simply adding a copy of the full GPL in a file included with the LiS distribution.<br><br> Third, there is a clause in the license notice in the files themselves that render this requirement suspect.<br><br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""> You should have= received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with<br> this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass<br> Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.</blockquote><br> In other words, you make provision in your notice that the recipient may not have received a copy of the license and what to do about it if he/she did not. (This is standard GNU recommend language.)<br><br> All that notwithstanding I am perfectly happy to remove OpenSS7 code from the LiS distribution. There is nothing of use to me within LiS that uses any of it anyway.<br><br> -- Dave<br><br> At 12:50 PM 9/7/2006, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Dave,<br><br> Regardless of whether your modified sources are considered simple<br> aggregation (which they cannot), your fundamental gpl-violation is that<br> you did not include a copy of the license per Section 1 of the GPL.<br> Thus your distribution is in violation of the GPL, and your attempt to<br> distribute the files without a copy of the license means that, for you,<br> the license is void and terminates. Anyone else that has redistributed<br> LiS-2.18.0 from your site without including the license, such as Steve,<br> is also in fundamental violation of the GPL and the license to these<br> files was void and terminated. As we follow a dual-licensing model,<br> punitive damages may have resulted from these gpl violations. For more<br> information, see <a href=3D"http://www.gpl-violations.org/" eudora=3D"autourl"> http://www.gpl-violations.org/</a><br><br> --brian<br><br> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Dave Grothe wrote:<br> <br> > <br> > Sorry, Charlie.<br> > From GNU GPL license version 2:<br> > <br> > In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the<br> > Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a<br> > volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other<br> > work under the scope of this License.<br> > <br> > and<br> > <br> > You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program<br> > except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt<br> > otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is<br> > void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this<br> > License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from<br> > you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so<br> > long as such parties remain in full compliance.<br> > <br> > So you have no right to revoke the terms and conditions of the GPL.<br> > And my mere aggregation of these files is in full compliance. Steve<br> > and others can speak for themselves.<br> > -- Dave<br> > At 04:48 PM 8/30/2006, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:<br> > <br> > Dave,<br> > ./include/tihdr.h<br> > ./include/timod.h<br> > ./include/sys/tihdr.h<br> > ./include/sys/timod.h<br> > ./include/sys/tpi.h<br> > ./include/sys/xti.h<br> > ./include/sys/xti_inet.h<br> > ./include/sys/xti_sctp.h<br> > ./include/sys/xti_xti.h<br> > ./include/sys/xti_ip.h<br> > ./include/sys/xti_tcp.h<br> > ./include/sys/xti_udp.h<br> > ./include/xti/config.h<br> > ./include/xti/tihdr.h<br> > ./include/xti/timod.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_atm.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_inet.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_ip.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_local.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_mosi.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_osi.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_sctp.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_tcp.h<br> > ./include/xti/xti_udp.h<br> > ./include/xti.h<br> > ./include/xti_inet.h<br> > Your license to copy and distribute these files is revoked. Please<br> > remove them from your website.<br> > --brian<br> > --<br> > Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the<br> > =A6<br> > [email protected] =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in<br> > =A6<br> > [1]http://www.openss7.org/ =A6 trying to adapt the world to<br> > himself. =A6<br> > = &nbs= p; =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the<br> > =A6<br> > = &nbs= p; =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw<br> > =A6<br> > <br> > References<br> > <br> > 1. <a href=3D"http://www.openss7.org/" eudora=3D"autourl"> http://www.openss7.org/</a><br><br> -- <br> Brian F. G. Bidulock =A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to the =A6<br> [email protected] =A6 world; the unreasonable one persists in =A6<br> <a href=3D"http://www.openss7.org/" eudora=3D"autourl"> http://www.openss7.org/</a> =A6 trying to adapt the world to himself. =A6<br> &nbs= p; =A6 Therefore all progress depends on the =A6<br> &nbs= p; =A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw =A6</font></blockquote></body> <br> </html> --=====================_1467797371==.ALT--