Re: GPL/LGPL

Come on, bidulock.=20
Why don't you let people work?
I prefer to remain silent on this list, since I'm not doing anything with=
 LiS anymore.
Don't you think you are going too far?
Dave did just a great work with LiS.
You are converting this into lawyer madness.
Go write some code.

Nemo

:  From: [email protected]
:  Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:13:19 -0500
:  To: [email protected]
:  CC: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] linux-streams=
@openss7.org
:  Subject: [Linux-streams] Re: GPL/LGPL
: =20
: =20
:  Took you awhile to come up with that one, didn't it?
: =20
:  First, you are the original violator of the GPL=20
:  since you conveyed these files to me and did not=20
:  accompany them with a copy of the GPL, or request=20
:  that I add a copy of the GPL to the LiS=20
:  distribution.  So it would be fair to argue that=20
:  you have waived your rights to this requirement.
: =20
:  Second, this "violation" is easily remedied by=20
:  simply adding a copy of the full GPL in a file=20
:  included with the LiS distribution.
: =20
:  Third, there is a clause in the license notice in=20
:  the files themselves that render this requirement suspect.
: =20
:  >  You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License a=
long with
:  >  this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., =
675 Mass
:  >  Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.
: =20
:  In other words, you make provision in your notice=20
:  that the recipient may not have received a copy=20
:  of the license and what to do about it if he/she=20
:  did not.  (This is standard GNU recommend language.)
: =20
:  All that notwithstanding I am perfectly happy to=20
:  remove OpenSS7 code from the LiS=20
:  distribution.  There is nothing of use to me=20
:  within LiS that uses any of it anyway.
: =20
:  -- Dave
: =20
:  At 12:50 PM 9/7/2006, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
:  >Dave,
:  >
:  >Regardless of whether your modified sources are considered simple
:  >aggregation (which they cannot), your fundamental gpl-violation is th=
at
:  >you did not include a copy of the license per Section 1 of the GPL.
:  >Thus your distribution is in violation of the GPL, and your attempt t=
o
:  >distribute the files without a copy of the license means that, for yo=
u,
:  >the license is void and terminates.  Anyone else that has redistribut=
ed
:  >LiS-2.18.0 from your site without including the license, such as Stev=
e,
:  >is also in fundamental violation of the GPL and the license to these
:  >files was void and terminated.  As we follow a dual-licensing model,
:  >punitive damages may have resulted from these gpl violations.  For mo=
re
:  >information, see http://www.gpl-violations.org/
:  >
:  >--brian
:  >
:  >On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Dave Grothe wrote:
:  >
:  > >
:  > >    Sorry, Charlie.
:  > >    From GNU GPL license version 2:
:  > >
:  > >      In  addition,  mere  aggregation  of  another work not based =
on the
:  > >      Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program=
) on a
:  > >      volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the=
 other
:  > >      work under the scope of this License.
:  > >
:  > >    and
:  > >
:  > >      You  may  not  copy,  modify, sublicense, or distribute the P=
rogram
:  > >      except  as  expressly  provided  under  this  License.  Any a=
ttempt
:  > >      otherwise  to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Prog=
ram is
:  > >      void,  and  will  automatically  terminate  your  rights unde=
r this
:  > >      License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights=
, from
:  > >      you  under  this License will not have their licenses termina=
ted so
:  > >      long as such parties remain in full compliance.
:  > >
:  > >    So  you  have  no right to revoke the terms and conditions of t=
he GPL.
:  > >    And  my  mere aggregation of these files is in full compliance.=
  Steve
:  > >    and others can speak for themselves.
:  > >    -- Dave
:  > >    At 04:48 PM 8/30/2006, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
:  > >
:  > >      Dave,
:  > >      ./include/tihdr.h
:  > >      ./include/timod.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/tihdr.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/timod.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/tpi.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/xti.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/xti_inet.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/xti_sctp.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/xti_xti.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/xti_ip.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/xti_tcp.h
:  > >      ./include/sys/xti_udp.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/config.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/tihdr.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/timod.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_atm.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_inet.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_ip.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_local.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_mosi.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_osi.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_sctp.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_tcp.h
:  > >      ./include/xti/xti_udp.h
:  > >      ./include/xti.h
:  > >      ./include/xti_inet.h
:  > >      Your license to copy and distribute these files is revoked.  =
Please
:  > >      remove them from your website.
:  > >      --brian
:  > >      --
:  > >      Brian  F. G. Bidulock    =C2=A6 The reasonable man adapts him=
self to the
:  > >      =C2=A6
:  > >      [email protected]     =C2=A6  world; the unreasonable one =
persists in
:  > >      =C2=A6
:  > >      [1]http://www.openss7.org/  =C2=A6  trying   to  adapt  the  =
 world   to
:  > >      himself. =C2=A6
:  > >                               =C2=A6 Therefore  all  progress  dep=
ends on the
:  > >      =C2=A6
:  > >                               =C2=A6 unreasonable man. -- George B=
ernard Shaw
:  > >      =C2=A6
:  > >
:  > > References
:  > >
:  > >    1. http://www.openss7.org/
:  >
:  >--
:  >Brian F. G. Bidulock    =C2=A6 The reasonable man adapts himself to t=
he =C2=A6
:  >[email protected]    =C2=A6 world; the unreasonable one persists i=
n  =C2=A6
:  >http://www.openss7.org/ =C2=A6 trying  to adapt the  world  to himsel=
f. =C2=A6
:  >                         =C2=A6 Therefore  all  progress  depends on =
the =C2=A6
:  >                         =C2=A6 unreasonable man. -- George Bernard S=
haw =C2=A6
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