Re: Future direction for LinuxFromScratch

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Em dom., 1 de fev. de 2026 =C3=A0s 23:08, Bruce Dubbs
<[email protected]> escreveu:
>
> With some regret, LFS/BLFS will no longer be developing the System V vers=
ions
> of the books.
>
> There are two reasons for this decision. The first reason is workload. No=
 one working
> on LFS is paid. We rely completely on volunteers. In LFS there are 88 pac=
kages. In
> BLFS there are over 1000. The volume of changes from upstream is overwhel=
ming the
> editors.  In this release cycle that started on the 1st of September unti=
l now, there
> have been 70 commits to LFS and 1155 commits to BLFS (and counting). When=
 making
> package updates, many packages need to be checked for both System V and s=
ystemd. When
> preparing for release, all packages need to be checked for each init syst=
em.
>
> The second reason for dropping System V is that packages like GNOME and s=
oon KDE's
> Plasma are building in requirements that require capabilities in systemd =
that are not
> in System V. This could potentially be worked around with another init sy=
stem like
> OpenRC, but beyond the transition process it still does not address the o=
ngoing
> workload problem.
>
> In the future, the LFS/BLFS 12.4 System V books will continue to be avail=
able. For
> the most part newer versions of packages in those books will be able to b=
e built with
> the instructions from there, but will not be tested by the LFS editors.
>
> The next version of LFS/BLFS will be version 13.0 and is currently has a =
target
> release data of March 1st.
>
> As a personal note, I do not like this decision. To me LFS is about learn=
ing how a
> system works. Understanding the boot process is a big part of that. syste=
md is about
> 1678 "C" files plus many data files.  System V is "22" C files plus about=
 50 short
> bash scripts and data files. Yes, systemd provides a lot of capabilities,=
 but we will
> be losing some things I consider important.
>
> However, the decision needs to be made.
>
>    -- Bruce Dubbs
>       linuxfromscratch.org
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Frustrating! I, personally, do not like the systemd at all. I
understand that the systemd did not prove its main claim: to be faster
than the System V on boot.

I really appreciate the heroic work by the LFS Developers! However,
the fact is very clear: the workload is almost insane!

If there is nothing to do about it, then let it be what it is to be.

Regards

Jamenson Ferreira Espindula de Almeida Melo
Jaboat=C3=A3o dos Guararapes, Pernambuco, Brazil
GNU/Linux user #166197; LFS ID 24492
Key fingerprint: 234D 1914 4224 7C53 BD13 6855 2AE0 25C0 08A8 6180

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