Re: kio-extras really not needed anymore?

"\"Douglas R. Reno\"" ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing List) <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.lfs.beyond.devel
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On 11/18/24 12:02, Bruce Dubbs ([email protected] via blfs-dev 
Mailing List) wrote:
> On 11/18/24 08:56, Jamie Gibbs ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing 
> List) wrote:
>> On 11/16/24 1:11 PM, Rainer Fiebig ([email protected] via blfs-dev 
>> Mailing List) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 16.11.24 um 17:48 schrieb Bruce Dubbs ([email protected] via
>>> blfs-dev Mailing List):
>>>> On 11/16/24 04:37, Rainer Fiebig ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing
>>>> List) wrote:
>>>>> I noticed that with commit f806bbf2991848ab272a8b6749de3dd86f544e50
>>>>> kio-extras was removed from the book because it is thought to be "no
>>>>> longer needed for the packages in the book".
>>>>>
>>>>> When I asked for kio-extras to be added to the book a few years 
>>>>> ago, it
>>>>> was necessary
>>>>> - for the listing and display of man-/info-pages in KDE-Helpcenter
>>>>> - to display the thumbnails of available wallpapers
>>>>> - to exchange data with a smartphone (libmtp also necessary)
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhpaps this has changed in Plasma-6.  If not, I suggest to
>>>>> re-introduce kio-extras, as all of the above mentioned 
>>>>> functionality can
>>>>> be considered important.
>>>> Have you confirmed that kio-extras is needed for that functionality?
>>> Yes for Plasma-5.  Libmtp >=1.1.2 is an optional runtime-dependency.
>>>
>>> You could countercheck that for Plasma-6: if kio-extras is needed for
>>> Plasma-6, too, and you had built Plasma-6 without it, the 
>>> aforementioned
>>> features should not be available.
>>>
>>> Rainer
>>
>> I installed the most recent versions of KF6, Plasma and almost all of 
>> KDE-gear a few days ago. I did NOT install kio-extras because it 
>> needed a few dependencies and I was lazy.
>>
>>
>> I can confirm that of the three listed reasons for adding kio-extras, 
>> the first, khelpcenter/info pages is still valid. They do not display 
>> for me. The third, exchanging data with smartphones, is also still 
>> valid.
>>
>>
>> The second, thumbnails of wallpaper is no longer the case. Wallpaper 
>> has now been moved into the main System Settings app and thumbnails 
>> view fine there.
>>
>>
>> Here's my notes from the previous version (same major and minor 
>> versions), where I did install kio-extras:
>>
>> ###kio-extras-24.08.0.tar.xz
>> ##needs KDSoap 
>> (https://github.com/KDAB/KDSoap/releases/tag/kdsoap-2.2.0) Release 
>> doesn't work. Use git clone, git submodule update --init --recursive.
>> ##needs KDSoapWSDiscoveryClient 
>> (https://github.com/KDE/kdsoap-ws-discovery-client)
>> ##needs PlasmaActivities, several optional deps (Samba, libssh with 
>> SFTP support, libmtp, libIMobileDevice, PList, OpenEXR, libappimage)
>
> We used to have kdsoap in the book.  I can't recall right now why we 
> removed it.
>
> What we had before as optional dependencies was:
>
> libtirpc, samba, taglib, libmtp (external), libssh (external), and 
> OpenEXR (external).
>
> I'm not against adding kio-extras back into the book, but adding 
> several more external packages is more than I'd like to do.
>
>   -- Bruce
>
Good afternoon folks,

Just wanted to provide an update here - I have filed 
https://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/20672, and I'll take care 
of reintroducing it and verifying functionality.

I don't have libmtp installed so I was unable to verify the smartphone 
angle, but I was able to verify the khelpcenter issue with manual pages 
and info documents. In addition, I also discovered an issue with dolphin 
where it will not mount SMB shares without kio-extras.

I should have the stats and everything updated tonight or tomorrow.

Thank you for the report, Rainer!

- Doug

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