Re: Potential problems with the LFS and BLFS 12.3 release

"Jamenson Espindula" ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing List) <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.lfs.beyond.devel,gmane.linux.lfs.devel
Message-ID <CAOW_YO=8poJhwzFdcLNEVWu+he9x0ODyn02cC7dgQZSt0FPqVA@mail.gmail.com>
Em qua., 26 de fev. de 2025 às 16:19, Bruce Dubbs
<[email protected]> escreveu:
>
> We have a potential problem with LFS and BLFS that I am asking for feedback on how to
> proceed.
>
> CURRENT
>    We have LFS and BLFS almost ready to go with a few packages (3) that still need
> testing on specialized hardware. There are also a few tweaks needed to some
> instructions, but there are no show stoppers.
>
> PROBLEM
>    I was testing some LFS packages that have come in during the package freeze and
> ran into a problem with udev/systemd. This problem is caused by a change in the
> kernel headers for linux-6.13.4 that cause udev/systemd to fail. This problem can be
> fixed with two seds or by upgrading to systemd-257.3 but we cannot be sure that the
> rest of the many applications and libraries that depend on systemd/udev will work
> properly unless we go through extensive testing. The changes are not needed for
> what we have now using the linux-6.13.2 kernel.
>
>   The problem now occurs if a user upgrades the kernel when building LFS.  We say:
> "The Linux kernel is updated quite frequently, many times due to discoveries of
> security vulnerabilities. The latest available stable kernel version may be used,
> unless the errata page says otherwise."
>
> Here are our options:
>
> 1. Continue with the 12.3 release.  We can add to the errata to tell users NOT to
>     use the latest kernel or we can remove that quote above.
>
> 2. We can release a new lfs-12.3-rc2 and restart the testing process. This
>     will delay the release schedule by one to two weeks but will make upgrades
>     easier for users. It will also allow us to incorporate newer package versions
>     that have published security issues.
>
>     I'll note here that there is no guarantee that during the delay that new
>     packages with security issues will not be released. Sometimes a new package
>     is not an issue, but the current problem is that udev/systemd touches a huge
>     number of packages and we don't have a good way to ensure everything is
>     consistent without re-testing everything.
>
> I am asking for community feedback about how we should proceed.
>
I am a translator, not a member of the Development Team. However,
considering that "there is no guarantee that during the delay that new
packages with security issues will not be released", I vote for option
1.

After version 12.3 of LFS and BLFS be released, the kernel will be
updated and extensive testing will be done.

Jamenson Ferreira Espindula de Almeida Melo
Jaboatão dos Guararapes, Pernambuco, Brazil
GNU/Linux user #166197; LFS ID 24492
Key fingerprint: 234D 1914 4224 7C53 BD13 6855 2AE0 25C0 08A8 6180

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