Re: sample ~/.vimrc

On Sun, 2025-06-01 at 14:53 +0200, Pierre Labastie wrote:
> On Sat, 2025-05-31 at 13:35 -0500, DJ Lucas wrote:
> > 
> > On 5/30/2025 3:53 PM, Bruce Dubbs ([email protected] via 
> > blfs-dev Mailing List) wrote:
> > > On 5/30/25 3:24 PM, DJ Lucas ([email protected] via blfs-
> > > dev 
> > > Mailing List) wrote:
> > > > It annoys me as, for whatever reason, I cannot remember where
> > > > to
> > > > look 
> > > > and need to do so after every break! :-)
> > > > 
> > > > From  ":h defaults" in modern vim:
> > > > 
> > > > Defaults without a .vimrc file
> > > > ===============================================================
> > > > ==
> > > > =
> > > > If Vim is started normally and no user vimrc file is found, the
> > > > $VIMRUNTIME/defaults.vim script is loaded.  This will set 
> > > > 'compatible' off,
> > > > switch on syntax highlighting and a few more things.  See the
> > > > script for
> > > > details.  NOTE: this is done since Vim 8.0, not in Vim 7.4. (it
> > > > was 
> > > > added in
> > > > patch 7.4.2111 to be exact).
> > > > 
> > > > This should work well for new Vim users.  If you create your
> > > > own 
> > > > .vimrc, it is
> > > > recommended to add these lines somewhere near the top:
> > > >          unlet! skip_defaults_vim
> > > >          source $VIMRUNTIME/defaults.vim
> > > > Then Vim works like before you had a .vimrc.
> > > > Copying $VIMRUNTIME/vimrc_example.vim to your .vimrc is another
> > > > way 
> > > > to do
> > > > this. Alternatively, you can copy defaults.vim to your .vimrc
> > > > and
> > > > modify it
> > > > (but then you won't get updates when it changes).
> > > > ===============================================================
> > > > ==
> > > > =
> > > > 
> > > > The .vimrc example in the book dates back to well before vim
> > > > 7.4.
> > > > I 
> > > > think these two lines should probably be added to the default
> > > > .vimrc 
> > > > in the book - per the developers' recommendation. It will not
> > > > matter 
> > > > for power users as the .vimrc that has been developed over the
> > > > past 
> > > > 10+ years is copied from machine to machine anyway. Maybe add a
> > > > note 
> > > > about the location of $VIMRUNTIME (or show the command so it
> > > > doesn't 
> > > > have to be updated when a new minor is released - ':echo
> > > > $VIMRUNITME' 
> > > > works well enough).
> > > 
> > > There are lots of things to set in vim.  Here is my config:
> > > 
> > > $ cat /etc/vimrc
> > > " Begin /etc/vimrc
> > > 
> > > " Ensure defaults are set before customizing settings, not after
> > > "source $VIMRUNTIME/defaults.vim
> > > let skip_defaults_vim=1
> > 
> > 
> > <Snip>
> > 
> > > 
> > > set mouse=
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > <Snip>
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > One problem I had was that the defaults were being run AFTER the 
> > > configuration file. That overwrote my settings.  The default
> > > mouse 
> > > setting was very irritating when using the center mouse button
> > > for 
> > > pasting.
> > > 
> > If you override the defaults they override just fine. I suspect
> > 'set 
> > mouse -=a' would stop visual mode but still allow intelligent
> > selection 
> > and middle click paste (have to be in insert mode first obviously).
> > I
> > do 
> > most via ssh now days, haven't installed GPM in a long time. When
> > we
> > add 
> > a personal .vimrc, the defaults are no longer applied for the user.
> > The 
> > point was to include the defaults, per the vendor's recommendation,
> > in 
> > the book. The user can decide if they need to be overridden and at
> > least 
> > have a known working sample. It'd make a reasonable default for 
> > /etc/skel as well.
> > 
> > --DJ
> > 
> 
> I think you can also use .vim/after (in $HOME), with the same
> structure
> as /usr/share/vimxx, and be sure that the commands in there are run
> _after_ those coming from the corresponding file in /usr/share/vimxx.
> For example I have in
> .vim/after/indent/xml.vim:
> setlocal shiftwidth=2
> setlocal tabstop=2
> setlocal expandtab
> 
> which is very handy for editing .xml files (shipped xml.vim file does
> not reset tabstop to 2, so it remains to 8, which is pretty crazy for
> xml, and furthermore, they are not replaced with spaces, which may
> lead
> to different layouts depending on user own setting of tab stops).
> 

Sorry forgot one step: /usr/share/vim/vimxx (where xx is packed
version, 91 presently)

Pierre

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