Re: sharutils-4.15.2

"\"Douglas R. Reno\"" ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing List) <[email protected]>
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On 7/25/25 11:11 AM, Bruce Dubbs ([email protected] via 
blfs-dev Mailing List) wrote:
> On 7/24/25 11:05 PM, "Douglas R. Reno" ([email protected] 
> via blfs-dev Mailing List) wrote:
>> On 7/24/25 10:48 PM, Randy McMurchy ([email protected] via blfs-dev 
>> Mailing List) wrote:
>>> On 7/24/2025 10:08 PM, Randy McMurchy ([email protected] via 
>>> blfs-dev Mailing List) wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The sharutils-4.15.2 package is broken with GCC 15. Here's a fix:
>>>>
>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-utils/2025-03/msg00000.html
>>>>
>>>> You'll have to run autoreconf after installing the 3 patches.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps someone can combine all 3 into one gcc-15.x patch.
>>>>
>>> Better still would be to combine the 3 sed commands and the echo
>>> command with the 3 patches all into one sharutils-4.15.2_fixes.patch
>>> (or whatever the naming conventions for patches are now.)
>>>
>>> Then it's just a patch and autoreconf -i added to the book.
>>
>> Hi Randy,
>>
>> With the amount of seds required for this package already, I think a 
>> consolidated patch is definitely the best approach as well! Bruce, 
>> what do you think?
>>
>> I just ran into an issue building GNU Time as well (the Time-1.9 page 
>> in the book) because it uses K&R style function declarations. If 
>> Bruce is on board with the patch approach I'll file tickets for both 
>> later
>>
>> Thank you for the report and the solutions!
>
> I wonder if sharutils should be archived.  It has not been updated in 
> 10 years.  The only place it is referenced is in lynx for uudecode 
> where it is optional. Checking Arch Linux, uudecode/sharutils is not 
> mentioned as a dependency for lynx.
>
> That said, I created 
> https://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/21884#ticket to address 
> the issue.
>
>   -- Bruce
>
I've thought about the archiving perspective as well. The biggest 
concern that I have is that it's required for POSIX compliance. When I 
was taking a Linux class in college a few years back (2020...), we were 
also using sharutils in class to use uudecode and uuencode, but I don't 
know how many people are going to end up encountering information which 
they need to use uudecode/encode on in the near future. It can 
apparently be used by Automake during it's test suite, but that 
shouldn't hold us up from a potential archival.

Does anyone know of a mailing list where you still have to use 
uuencode/decode or shar/unshar?

It might be worth considering archiving it after 12.4 is out, and 
including a note in the release announcement asking users to contact us 
if they still use it. If we do remove it though we will also need to 
remove our notes about being POSIX compliant. On that note, we should 
also update our POSIX information in the LFS books to mention 
POSIX.1-2024, and probably check in that to see if sharutils is still 
mentioned and if there's any other changes we might need to make.

- Doug

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