Re: [lfs-dev] Moving packages from/to BLFS to/from LFS

"Rainer Fiebig" ([email protected] via blfs-dev Mailing List) <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.linux.lfs.beyond.devel,gmane.linux.lfs.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Am 05.09.25 um 03:49 schrieb Xi Ruoyao ([email protected] via lfs-dev
Mailing List):
> On Thu, 2025-09-04 at 22:43 +0200, Thomas Trepl wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, dem 04.09.2025 um 14:54 -0500 schrieb Bruce Dubbs:
>>> On 9/4/25 2:39 PM, Thomas Trepl ([email protected] via lfs-dev Mailing 
>>> List) wrote:
>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 04.09.2025 um 21:07 +0200 schrieb Rainer Fiebig:
>>>>> Am 04.09.25 um 21:00 schrieb Thomas Trepl ([email protected]
>>>>> via lfs-dev Mailing List):
>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, dem 04.09.2025 um 12:30 -0500 schrieb Bruce Dubbs:
>>>>>>> I'm removing the discussion to keep this post to a reasonable level. See the previous
>>>>>>> posts in the thread to review the context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a pretty good idea - the latest answers do not deserve any further
>>>>>> comments.
>>>>> Rather arrogant attitude.
>>>>
>>>> well, we just learned that the classification of a dependency as optional
>>>> or recommended depends on the amount of users who want to use the feature.
>>>> I do not comment any further to that one. If you think thats arrogant -
>>>> then I love to be arrogant^2.
>>>
>>> As far as I know, we are the only ones that publish lists of recommended and optional 
>>> dependencies.  For instance Arch appears to virtually make all dependencies required.
>>>
>>> When we say something is recommended or optional, those are always a judgement call. 
>>> The difference is twofold.  If we recommend a dependency, our instructions assume 
>>> that dependency has been installed and we think the added capabilities for the 
>>> package are useful.
>>>
>>> Overall the LFS and BLFS packages and instructions are all recommendations, but we 
>>> let the user make the final decision.  Your Distro. Your Rules.
>>>
>> As a last comment on this, i citate what has been said:
>>
>> "It's [bluez/tk on Python] an optional dependency. If we assume the
>> majority of the users need that, it should have been a recommended
>> dependency."
> 
> Why this is incorrect?
> 
>> and
>>
>> "And I'd not say "limiting the user's option" is wrong in nature."
> 
> And still why this is incorrect?
The books should not limit options but offer guidance.  These are
different concepts and they require different mindsets.

Rainer

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