Re: Future direction for LinuxFromScratch

Em dom., 1 de fev. de 2026 às 23:08, Bruce Dubbs
<[email protected]> escreveu:
>
> With some regret, LFS/BLFS will no longer be developing the System V versions
> of the books.
>
> There are two reasons for this decision. The first reason is workload. No one working
> on LFS is paid. We rely completely on volunteers. In LFS there are 88 packages. In
> BLFS there are over 1000. The volume of changes from upstream is overwhelming the
> editors.  In this release cycle that started on the 1st of September until now, there
> have been 70 commits to LFS and 1155 commits to BLFS (and counting). When making
> package updates, many packages need to be checked for both System V and systemd. When
> preparing for release, all packages need to be checked for each init system.
>
> The second reason for dropping System V is that packages like GNOME and soon KDE's
> Plasma are building in requirements that require capabilities in systemd that are not
> in System V. This could potentially be worked around with another init system like
> OpenRC, but beyond the transition process it still does not address the ongoing
> workload problem.
>
> In the future, the LFS/BLFS 12.4 System V books will continue to be available. For
> the most part newer versions of packages in those books will be able to be built with
> the instructions from there, but will not be tested by the LFS editors.
>
> The next version of LFS/BLFS will be version 13.0 and is currently has a target
> release data of March 1st.
>
> As a personal note, I do not like this decision. To me LFS is about learning how a
> system works. Understanding the boot process is a big part of that. systemd is about
> 1678 "C" files plus many data files.  System V is "22" C files plus about 50 short
> bash scripts and data files. Yes, systemd provides a lot of capabilities, but we will
> be losing some things I consider important.
>
> However, the decision needs to be made.
>
>    -- Bruce Dubbs
>       linuxfromscratch.org
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Frustrating! I, personally, do not like the systemd at all. I
understand that the systemd did not prove its main claim: to be faster
than the System V on boot.

I really appreciate the heroic work by the LFS Developers! However,
the fact is very clear: the workload is almost insane!

If there is nothing to do about it, then let it be what it is to be.

Regards

Jamenson Ferreira Espindula de Almeida Melo
Jaboatão dos Guararapes, Pernambuco, Brazil
GNU/Linux user #166197; LFS ID 24492
Key fingerprint: 234D 1914 4224 7C53 BD13 6855 2AE0 25C0 08A8 6180

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