continued... Re: lists of what Aaron thinks is important for the wiki Re: Idea for navigation

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Note, Backlinks would generate a good see also area...  however if done with 
backlinks a manual section might be needed to create new links, or to show 
the best of the best see alsos

> >   3. implement a wiki action that offeres this functionality.
>
> I'm not 100% sure what you mean.  Do you mean code something to
> automatically include "what links here" in a document?

yes, I think i described it after i sent this document
> >   4. an expanded what links here in the side bar.
>
> The same as above?
yes, but in the side bar, like maybe on the right margin of the page, wiki 
user doesn't do anything to implement this content, it's already there.

> > 1. I believe that hyperlinks belong right next to where they were
> > referenced.
>
> I don't think anyone disagrees.  Acording to the Manual of Style the
> links should be in context within the text as well as in an External
> links section at the bottom of the page:
Oh, ok

> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/LinuxQuestions.org_Wiki:Manual_of_Style
>#External_and_'See_also'_links

That is a very long URL, maybe move it to:
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/wiki:MoS
and have manual of style redirected to it? or have this (or similar) 
redirected to your already existant page?

>
> > 2. I believe that the peers of the page define a page as much as the page
> > content does  (taken from my dad observing politicians to see who their
> > fund raisers are rather than their outward appearance)
> >
> > 3. Long pages need an instant way out of.
>
> Exactly - that's one reason for including "See also" and "External
> links"  Just press your "End" key and you should see them

How many people use their end key?  Do we have a solution that doesn't require 
reading a manual? Yes, and that is puting a compact navigation system up with 
the definition section of the wiki page

>
> > 4. It's really short being only one or two lines, and it solves multiple
> > parents
> >
> > 5. once it's in the standard See Also section, people will want to put it
> > back there if I move it out again.
> >
> > 6. There is a difference between member of, and see also, the distinction
> > has use.   (member of is typically very short, I experimented with paths,
> > but I can drop that, or condense them)
>
> Paths?  again - examples may be useful.  I think you are talking about
> namespaces and these will only be created if and when it is thought
> there is a need.

i already described this before... maybe on a wiki:talk page, but I think it 
was over the list...  Oh, i gave an example in the mail I sent after the 
origional sending of this.. here it is again,

path as in os path..
/usr/share/docs
except a "topic" path
Member Of: [[common tasks]] : [[networking]] : [[networking without a 
hub]]<BR>
See Also: [[parallel port networking]] [[usb networking]] [[null modem]]
Most people use a [[hub]],[[switch]] or a [[router]] to connect two computers 
via [[ethernet]]. Here is how to connect two computers with a cross over 
cable.
== Cable diagram/description ==
== Expected Speeds ==
==Something else of interest ==
==See Also ==
(a fuller list of see also, actually backlinks is what I have tried to use 
backlinks whenever possible, which means that a manual see also is not 
redundant, however, If this page did not have backlinks, I would only have 
the Member Of up at the top.


==
>
> > 7.  Multiple navigation systems do not harm a wiki, the multiple
> > navigation systems are the web,  I don't think of a cross referenced
> > books as being much of a web.  (I'll expand later
> >
> > 8.  People VERY often enter the wiki  at where the search engine drops
> > them, all pages need to serve as a minimal "table of contents" to the
> > rest of the wiki.
>
> You can't really link to 2500 pages from each individual page.  Would it
> not be more likely that people would use the "See also" section to see
> related material or go to the main page to see the main categories?

I think I covered this in the thing that I sent between this and that,

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