Re: Definition of "product" for the purposes of the LSB

On Dec 30, 11:50am in "[lsb-discuss] Defini", Jeff Licquia wrote:
> Let's suppose that someone produces a potential LSB Runtime Environment 
> that is not certified, and that has some deficiencies.  This 
> environment's installation system allows for "supplemental media" to be 
> provided at install time for the purposes of fixing bugs, installing 
> add-on software, and so on.
> 
> Let's also suppose that a third party produces "supplemental media" 
> usable by the original Environment's installer which contain fixes for 
> the deficiencies in the LSB Runtime Environment.  With these fixes 
> applied, the Environment is now suitable for certification.
> 
> Would the combination of the original media and the supplemental media 
> be distinct enough to qualify as a separate product, or must the third 
> party generate new media with a new installer and with the fixes 
> integrated onto the media?  Or is there some other way for the third 
> party to achieve LSB certification for the combined Environment?
> 


There's a couple of issues here

1. Product packaging and installation
and
2. Obligations on the organization supplying a certified product

On 1, LSB certification says nothing about how the product is installed
or packaged itself. So it would not matter that 
a complete distribution is installed and then overlayed by
supplemental media, so long as the product that is certified
is clearly identified as the two items together and details
given in the conformance statement as to how to obtain an
LSB conforming environment

Example of products being certified like this to date, include
those which needed various kernel and glibc levels, or some
with a specific service pack
(se the following register entries:

https://www.opengroup.org/lsb/cert/display_product.tpl?CALLER=cert_prodlist.tpl&_pr_id=125

https://www.opengroup.org/lsb/cert/display_product.tpl?CALLER=cert_prodlist.tpl&_pr_id=124

https://www.opengroup.org/lsb/cert/display_product.tpl?CALLER=cert_prodlist.tpl&_pr_id=244

)

On 2, the organization that has a product certified warrants that
the product conforms and that the product will continue to conform
or it will lose its certification. Such an organization has to
agree to both the Trademark License Agreement and the
Certification Agreement.

regards
Andrew