Re: [OM Cooker] svn soft/ -> git ?

Hi,

I should be clear here (and this is something I've previously mentioned
to at least Matthew) that this git conversion process does not mean any
kind of "shared upstream" just yet.

For better or worse, some of the tools are really very tightly tied to
the distribution release process where bugs and problems in the
installer and related tools are found, fixed and released with fairly
quick turnaround. This process is not ideal (i.e. it shouldn't be quite
the frantic experience it is), but that's just the way it is and to have
the baggage of some kind of coordinated upstream likely wouldn't be
beneficial to anyone at this stage.

So for now I think the use of git will just help share things more
easily but I still ultimately see people (at least us) maintaining our
own "upstream" versions and release process because of the above issues.

Obviously if you want to use the Mageia versions as is (perhaps with
local patches generated with help from git (kinda like how we manage
initscripts from fedora) and submit fixes to us to commit, that would be
great, but that's really up to those managing these tools in the
respective distros and if you want to keep your own release and
versioning process, that's obviously fine and hopefully git will make
that much less burdensome than it is now.

So I hope the reasoning above is clear as to why, for us, it doesn't
make sense to have a single, coordinated upstream just yet. The fullness
of time might of course change that.

All the best

Col


'Twas brillig, and Raphaël Jadot at 20/06/13 22:17 did gyre and gimble:
> Yes that's cool :)
> 
> Even, three group including Moondrake
> 
> Le jeu. 20 juin 2013 22:01:53 CEST, Matthew Dawkins a écrit :
>> Kewl, Nice to hear from you Colin!
>>
>> I think we are at a good point in OMDV's progression and I hope MGA's
>> too to really take a stab at collaboration of the two groups.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Colin Guthrie <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 20/06/13 20:08 did gyre and gimble:
>>     > As Mageia is in the process of trying to get more people focus on
>>     > development of our own drak* stuff, this is well-timed.  I hope
>>     > everyone else thinks it's a good idea and a formal proposal will be
>>     > sent to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> at some point.
>>
>>
>>     Just so that everyone knows, myself and Nicolas (@mdv dev) have been
>>     working on converting the Mandriva subversion repositories to git.
>>
>>     This work is mostly complete but the secondary step is resetting
>>     the git
>>     repositories to the point at which Mageia forked (also deleting all
>>     newer branches etc) and then synthesising a commit, tricking the
>>     git-svn
>>     metadata into working and then carrying on the import process via
>>     Mageia
>>     svn is taking a little longer. We're also squashing come "oops"
>>     commits
>>     that happened in subversion over the years.
>>
>>     We'll be publishing these in the next couple weeks and we will be
>>     happy
>>     to also make available the Mandriva versions of these repositories if
>>     there is demand for this.
>>
>>     Obviously the conversions are done in such a way that authors are all
>>     properly transferred to their real names/email addresses and care was
>>     taken to try and get this right.
>>
>>     Col
>>
>>     --
>>
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>>
>>
>>
> 
> --
> Best regards, meilleures salutations
> Raphaël Jadot
> 


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