Re: [OM Cooker] Odp.: Re: Odp.: Re: Problem updating system

Guy Bormann <[email protected]> Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:29:27 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Are you referring to this part (in the English translation)?
"
2. Mandriva SA, according to his knowledge, has the authority to give such license. Mandriva SA agrees to notify the Association OpenMandriva any fact or circumstance that could modify or make inaccurate the terms of this agreement."


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-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
Van: David Walser <[email protected]> 
Datum:  
Aan: Raphaël Jadot <[email protected]>,[email protected] 
Cc: [email protected] 
Onderwerp: Re: [Cooker] [OM Cooker] Odp.: Re: Odp.: Re: Problem updating system 
 
--- On Fri, 6/21/13, Raphaël Jadot <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Raphaël Jadot <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] [OM Cooker] Odp.: Re: Odp.: Re: Problem updating system
> To: "David Walser" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], "Rolf Pedersen" <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, June 21, 2013, 2:06 AM
> 
> Le 21/06/2013 02:26, David Walser a écrit :
> > --- On Thu, 6/20/13, Rolf Pedersen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> From: Rolf Pedersen <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [Cooker] [OM Cooker] Odp.: Re: Odp.:
> Re: Problem updating system
> >> To: [email protected],
> [email protected]
> >> Date: Thursday, June 20, 2013, 7:28 PM
> >>
> >> On 06/20/2013 02:02 PM, David Walser wrote:
> >>>> 4.Who renamed (be self decision) distro
> name to
> >> Moondrake?
> >>> Original poll was conducted by Charles Schulz.
> 
> >> Top winner was something like mandala or something
> that
> >> apparently sounds funny in Russian, and was a
> result of some
> >> immature trolling.  Second was probably
> OpenMandriva,
> >> which is an irresponsible choice for a *product*
> name, due
> >> to trademark issues.  Third was
> Moondrake.  Seemed
> >> the best choice given the combination of
> responsibility and
> >> community preference at that time. 
> Furthermore, there
> >> was nothing set in stone about it that it couldn't
> be
> >> changed again before the release.  Finally,
> setting the
> >> name to *something* was made more urgent by Charles
> Schulz
> >> (again) demanding on behalf of MDV that it no
> longer be
> >> called "Mandriva Linux" as it still was at that
> time.
> >> Eschewing names with vulgar connotations in any
> language,
> >> let alone one used by most of the productive
> developers
> >> (afaict) and potential user base, is not
> trivial.  My
> >> recollection is that 'OpenMandriva' was
> licensed/ceded to
> >> OMA as the only 'mandriva'-containing name that
> could be
> >> used without legal challenge.  I voted for
> that name.
> >> "Irresponsible" is your characterization and
> debatable, as
> >> well.
> >> The hostility toward Schultz and other support paid
> for by
> >> Mandriva SA is, imo, unjustified and a prime source
> of the
> >> acrimony that continues to undermine the slow,
> precarious
> >> development of this attempted renaissance, the
> diligent
> >> unheralded work of volunteers, not only of code
> developers.
> >> Rolf
> > I wasn't expressing any hostility toward Charles, just
> stating what happened.  And irresponsible may be
> debatable, but if you think I'm wrong, then you don't
> understand trademark protection.  It's fine to use it
> as the association name, as that can be changed
> easily.  Not so for a product.  It doesn't matter
> what allowances MDV is making *now* for your ability to use
> their name.  As long as they own the trademark, they
> reserve the right to change their mind in the future. 
> I don't care what promises any current employees may have
> made about it, when in the future other people have the
> authority to make decisions about the use of the company's
> trademarks, they can change their mind.  Period.
> >
> Change their mind is one thing, however they sign this :
> http://wiki.openmandriva.org/om/en/License_agreement

That's great.  It doesn't contradict anything I said.